[B-Greek] EN MESWi in Revelation
Richard Ghilardi
qodeshlayhvh at juno.com
Mon Apr 7 11:18:38 EDT 2003
Dear George and b-greekers,
Sorry it has taken me so long to digest this one, but I think slowly.
If I understand you rightly, you would position the participants in this
scene as follows:
1) the Throne and the Four Living Creatures taken as a group
(representing Heaven)
2) the Lamb (mediating between Heaven and Earth)
3) the Elders (representing Earth)
That all looks perfectly fine to me. What I'm having trouble with is
putting all this into decent English. The best that I could come up with
is:
"and I saw between the throne and the four living creatures, on the one
hand, and the elders, on the other, a lamb standing..."
But this seems intolerably clumsy to me. Can anyone do better?
Yours in His grace,
Richard Ghilardi -- qodeshlayhvh at juno.com
New Haven, CT USA
parakal at quetzal.net writes:
>
> > Rev 5:6a: KAI EIDON EN MESWI TOU QRONOU KAI TWN TESSARWN ZWiWN
> KAI EN MESWi
> > TWN PRESBUTERWN ARNION hESTHKOS...
> > When I was trying to understand what this could mean it struck me
> as
> > strange
> > that a lamb would be standing in the middle of the throne. Can
> MESOS mean
> > "in between"? Something like; And I saw in between the throne and
> the four
> > living creatures and in the midst of the elders a lamb standing...
> I
> > considered this possibility because EN MESWi is repeated after
> TESSARWN
> > ZWiWN. If this is an incorrect translation, what is the reason for
> this
> > repetition?
> > This reasoning does not completely satisfy me because in Rev.4:6
> four
> > living
> > creatures are EN MESWi TOU QRONOU. Or does it mean " close to".
> Maybe it
> > has
> > to be translated literally but explained in light of the type of
> literature
> > Revelation is?
Polycarp66 at aol.com writes:
>
> The EN MESWi . . . KAI EN MESWi simply refers to being between the
> two
> objects mentioned. It should be understood and translated as
> "between A and
> B". This comes from the Hebrew. I refer again to Gen 3.15 where
> the Hebrew
> reads
>
> W:)"YBfH )f$iYT ** B."YN:Kf W.B"YN ** Hf)i$.fH ** W.B"YN **
> ZaR:(:aKf **
> W.B"YN ** ZaR:(fH.
>
> Literally,
>
> And enmity I will place BETWEEN you AND BETWEEN the woman AND
> BETWEEN her
> seed AND BETWEEN your seed.
>
> Only one "between" is needed for each pair of EN MESWi . . . KAI EN
> MESWi
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