[B-Greek] Daniel 7:14 LXX

tmcos at rogers.com tmcos at rogers.com
Fri Dec 19 18:09:44 EST 2003


Thanks Albert for your reply. What sparked this interest was the 
fact that the Aramaic word used in Dan 7:14, 27 (also 3:12,14, 17-
18, 28) in the MT is PELAK. This word which means "to serve" 
also means "to pay reverence to" and it appears elsewhere in  
Ezra 7:24 always in the context of religious service and never civil 
or secular service. The NIV is the only translation that I know that 
uses the word "worship" in Dan 7:14, 27 instead of "serve". One 
can be said to "serve" God in religious texts, but the idea of 
serving certainly carried a different connotation in respect to kings, 
rulers, etc.  While I realize that this may be beyond the scope of 
this list, later Christian theologians made an important distinction 
between LATRIA and DOULIA, the former referring to cultic 
worship or service.  Any reason why Theodotion's version would 
differ here? Many thanks.

Tony


> From: Albert Pietersma <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>
> Date: 2003/12/19 Fri PM 05:33:44 EST
> To: "Tony Costa" <tmcos at rogers.com>
> CC: Albert Pietersma <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>, 
>   <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Daniel 7:14 LXX
> 
> Tony,
> If you haven't already done so, you will need to look at the text in 
> full and in both the Septuagint translation and the so-called 
> Theodotionic translation, since they are rather different. The 
> Göttingen edition of Ziegler has recently been superseded by 
the 
> Göttingen edition of Olivier Munnich (though only the LXX text 
has been 
> revised).
> For the verse in question you can still use Rahlfs, since nothing 
of 
> substance has been changed in it by either Ziegler or Munnich.
> Not only do the verbs you cite belong to different versions 
(LATREUW = 
> LXX; DOULEUW = TH), but their grammatical subjects also differ 
in the 
> two.
> The lines in question I would gloss as:
> LXX: And to him was given royal authority and all the nations of 
the 
> earth?according to kind?and all glory ministering (LATREUW) to 
him.
> TH: And to him was given rule and honour and kingship; and all 
the 
> peoples, tribes, tongues shall serve him as slaves (DOULEUW).
> On the two verbs there are no variant readings.
> Al
> 
> On Dec 19, 2003, at 3:44 PM, Tony Costa wrote:
> 
> > Dear Friends, does anyone know if there is a textual variant in 
LXX 
> > Daniel 7:14? When I consulted the parallel readings at 
> > http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/text/religion/biblical/parallel/
> >  I noticed there were two readings in this verse when it came 
to the 
> > nations "serving" the son of man of 7:13. One reading has the 
verb 
> > LATREU/OUSA (under DanielOG 7:14) and the other has the 
verb 
> > DOULEU/SOUSIN (under DanielTh 7:13). Is there a variant 
here?
> >
> > Tony Costa
> >
> >
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