[B-Greek] Fw: OFFLIST RE: [b-trans] Re: 2 Tim 1:3, 2 Tim 3:15 "apo"

Ann Nyland accuratebibles at ozemail.com.au
Tue Feb 11 20:42:30 EST 2003


Thanks, Carl. I'll pass this on.
Ann Nyland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: "Ann Nyland" <accuratebibles at ozemail.com.au>
Cc: "Biblical Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Fw: OFFLIST RE: [b-trans] Re: 2 Tim 1:3, 2 Tim 3:15
"apo"


> At 9:23 AM +1100 2/12/03, Ann Nyland wrote:
> >Thanks, Carl. The person with whom I had the discussion is now asking the
> >below.
> >Ann Nyland
> >"How, then, should APO be understood?: hWi LATREUW APO PROGONWN EN
KAQARAi
> >SUNEIDHSEI Ie: What might "from my forefathers" mean? Would it imply "in
the
> >same way as my forefathers?" What would be the precise sense?
> >EK BREFON seems to appear in the literature (ie: Perseus) with the sense
of
> >"from childhood," but APO BREFOUS seems to only appears in the literature
> >with the sense of "away from a baby" or "away from babyhood."
>
> I would agree that there's an implicit link unexpressed in LATREUW APO
> PROGONWN; the explicit sense is, "whom I have been worshiping continuously
> ever since (the time of my) forefathers"; nevertheless, I don't think the
> meaning is unclear; Paul worships God and always has and doing so is
> something going way back in his family's history.
>
> The relevant section of BDAG is:
>
> BDAG: APO
>
> 2. to indicate the point from which someth. begins, whether lit. or fig.
> b. of time from . . . (on), since (POxy 523, 4; Mel., HE 4, 26, 8;
> s. Kuhring 54ff).
> a. APO TWN hHMERWN IWANNOU from the days of John Mt 11:12. APO THS
> hWRAS EKEINHS 9:22. AP' EKEINHS THS hHMERAS (Jos., Bell. 4, 318, Ant. 7,
> 382) Mt 22:46; J 11:53. ETH hEPTA APO THS PARQENIAS AUTHS for seven years
> fr. the time she was a virgin Lk 2:36. AP' ETWN DWDEKA for 12 years 8:43.
> APO TRITHS hWRAS THS NUKTOS Ac 23:23. APO KTISEWS KOSMOU Ro 1:20. APO
> PERUSI since last year, a year ago 2 Cor 8:10; 9:2.-AP' AIWNOS, AP' ARCHS,
> AP' ARTI (also APARTI and ARTI),  APO KATBOLHS KOSMOU, APO TOTE, APO TOU
> NUN; s. the pertinent entries.
> --
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
> cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu OR cwconrad at ioa.com
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