[B-Greek] 1John 3:19-20

Mike Marchywka marchywka at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 17 10:52:53 EDT 2003


Thanks.

>If I've understood your posts thus far, my impression is that you are not
>really very far along yet in learning Biblical Gree--and the following
>remarks are based upon that assumption, which may be wrong (if so, please
>don't take it amiss). For my part I would not advise relying upon this

I have almost no background in Greek. I would like to learn mostly
by lurking and asking a couple of specific questions.
( I do belong to mail lists on subjects that I
actually have backound in, I know these types of posts can get annoying
after a while ...)
If my interest is stimulated I hope to buy some materials and devote more 
time.

>I don't think, for my part, that it's a matter of emotion and reason but
>rather of one's one judgment of one's behavior and God's judgment of one's
>behavior.

So, this is mostly a blanket/general statement that God's knowledge and
decisions are able to overcome our bad decisions
without any additional qualification? KARDIA
appears to encompass the whole of human thinking. Is there anything
it specifically excludes?

>compassion for one's brother" (3;17) and claiming to love God. Then there's
>the concern for ALHQEIA, which in this context might be "honesty" or
>"authenticity" in one's relationship to God and one's "brother" (presumably
>"fellow believer"). In my opinion, what the author is saying in this

In 3:18, LOGOS is used when the tranlsations ( to me anyway )
read as if rhema
(I'm using references like this
http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=4487
)
may have been the original. Could someone comment
on this use of logos as contrasted with John 1? I take it
that whatever logos is, it can be faked ( or else the sentence
contributes nothing). If God has a logos aspect and a love aspect,
then  the command ME AGAPAW LOGOS sounds almost contradictory.


>the verb. In a judicial sense, one might say that GINWSKW means "reach a
>verdict," while KATAGINWSKW means "reach a negative verdict," and in fact
>that is the way KATAGINWSKW is commonly used in older Attic Greek in a
>judicial or forensic context.

Then this is more of a decision than knowledge( verdict versus evidence )?

When I first saw this term ( again, pardon my ignorance ) I thought of 
gnosis.
Are the words related somehow?( when I am able to use one I will buy
a lexicon...)

Thanks again.


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