[B-Greek] aorist subjunctive

phil-eng phil-eng at ighmail.com
Thu Apr 1 02:53:03 EST 2004


Thanks Carl.

I have looked up Wallace and also re-read the archives on OU MH 
TELESHTE, and noted the fact of it being "a strongly emphatic negative 
stating that a possible future state in the subjunctive will certainly 
not arrive".

I am trying to explain to myself what the third person aorist 
subjunctive means. (2nd person aorist subjunctive is used in 
prohibitions)

Correy Keating (www.ntgreek.org), says that, "the time implied by the 
subjunctive is usually future since it is a mood of contingency.Thus the 
future indicative and the aorist subjunctive are closely related and 
sometimes substituted for each other". Wenham and others say something 
similar.

How does a subjunctive become future?

The aorist is punctiliar and the subjunctive expresses doubt; but i am 
unclear about the combination, the aorist subjunctive (3rd person) with 
specific reference to CRONISHi in LXX Habakkuk 2:3.

Thanks,

Philip Engmann (phil-eng at ighmail.com)

-----Original Message-----
From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: phil-eng at ighmail.com
Cc: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:12:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] aorist subjunctive l

> At 2:06 PM +0100 3/31/04, Philip Engmann wrote:
> >The Aorist Subjunctive
> >
> >Jose Alvarez defines the aorist subjunctive as "an event that will
> >punctuate the succession of history if an individual is faithful to
> >accomplish it as an act of their free will".
> >(www.thepattern.org/files/OurpositioninChristtwo.htm).
> >
> > Albert Rijksbaron says that "the aorist subjunctive indicates the
> state
> >of affairs of the protasis is anterior to that of the apodosis".
> >(http://typhon.perseus.tufts.edu/typhon/aem/Stoa/Synsem/html) .
> >
> >Does anyone have any simpler or clearer definitions of the aorist
> >subjunctive, particularly in relation to the third person active
> aorist
> >subjunctive verb, CRONISE in Habakkuk 2:3?
> 
> I supposse you mean CRONISHi?
> 
> Text (it's usually helpful to have the text in front of us): DIOTI ETI
> hORASIS EIS KAIRON KAI ANTATELEI EIS PERAS KAI OUK EIS KENON EAN
> hUSTERHSHi
> hUPOMEINON AUTON hOTI ERCOMENOS hHXEI KAI OU MH CRONISHi.
> 
> It seems to me that your two citations are irrelevant to the aorist
> subjective in CRONISHi; this is rather an instance of what we were
> discussing on-list a week or so ago (3/17-24) with regard to OU MH
> TELESHTE; here we have the common usage of OU MH + aorist subjunctive
> as
> emphatic future assertion: "he will certainly not tarry." Cf. Wallace
> GGBB,
> p. 468, "Emphatic negation." Certainly the fact that CRONISHi is aorist
> subjunctive has nothing to do with the conditional construction
> preceding
> it ("if he should be late, wait for him"), rather this is in the
> explanatory clause, "because he WILL COME ..."
> -- 
> 
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
> cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
> WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/




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