[B-Greek] Acts 17,16
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Sat Apr 3 09:19:47 EST 2004
At 3:15 PM +0300 4/3/04, Iver Larsen wrote:
>>
>> EN DE TAIS AQHNAIS EKDECOMENOU AUTOUS TOU PAULOU,
>> PARWXUNETO TO PNEUMA AUTOU EN AUTWi QEWROUNTOS
>> KATEIDWLON OUSAN THN POLIN
>>
>> Wallace lists OUSAN as "indirect discourse" per
>> Parsons/Culy (I don't have the source they have
>> sited). Can someone show me how this participle could
>> be considered "indirect discourse"? (Who was involved
>> in the "direct" discourse and what was imagined to
>> have been said?)
>>
>> =====
>> Eddie Mishoe
>> Pastor
>
>I have not read Wallace and I approach the grammar of Greek form a general
>descriptive linguistics background rather than traditional Greek grammar, so
>my comments my be at variance with tradition.
>
>Having said that, I agree with you and Steven that "indirect discourse" is
>not a helpful term to use here. Normally, indirect discourse is a clausal
>object of a verb of saying or thinking, not "seeing" as here.
>
>Would you say that "he saw a man coming down the street" is an example of
>indirect discourse?
>What about "he saw that a man was coming down the street"? Is that indirect
>discourse?
>
>In Acts 17,16 Paul is "very upset in his spirit (from) observing the city
>being idolatrous (full of idols)"
>
>REB: "he was outraged to see the city so full of idols."
>RSV: "as he saw that the city was full of idols."
>
>It is possible in Greek (as in English) to use a full subordinate clause as
>the object for these verbs, introduced with hOTI or hINA (that), but it is
>more common in Greek just have a noun as object which may then be further
>qualified by a participial phrase/clause.
>
>Some verbs take an infinitive with accusative, but QEWREW is not one of
>them.
>
>Iver Larsen
>
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