[B-Greek] gender of pronouns

tmcos at rogers.com tmcos at rogers.com
Mon Apr 12 11:22:04 EDT 2004


I know this question was primarily addressed to Dr.Conrad but I thought I would add my thoughts on it.
The gender is purely grammatical. The Greek word for child for instance is TEKNON and it is neuter. This does not mean a child is neuter by sexual gender of course, it is the word itself that is neuter. 

Tony Costa



> 
> From: "Gerald Barrett" <barrettgr at cybersurfers.net>
> Date: 2004/04/12 Mon AM 09:26:00 EDT
> To: "Lew Osborne" <osbo at hn.ozemail.com.au>, 
> 	"Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
> CC: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] gender of pronouns
> 
> This is my first time to respond on this site.  I want to thank all for
> responding to the questions. This is one of the greatest and helpful sites
> I've been on. I hope this is not a foolish question and off topic of Greek,
> but it did come to me as I pondered your answer Mr. Conrad.  If the
> implication is not biological gender what type of gender is it?  Are there
> other types of gender besides that of the flesh that the antecedent would
> indicate? I'm really new at Greek.
> Thank you again.
> Gerald Barrett
> Church of Christ
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
> To: "Lew Osborne" <osbo at hn.ozemail.com.au>
> Cc: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] gender of pronouns
> 
> 
> > At 5:05 PM +1000 4/12/04, Lew Osborne wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >In John 1:3 the pronoun 'him' was translated as 'it' until about 1568.
> > >Taking all doctrinal thinking out of the equation and understanding that
> the
> > >word 'logos' is the 'essential thought' ; 'the concept of an idea' should
> > >the word 'autos' be translated 'it'; 'he'; 'she' or whatever in this
> > >context. What governs this?
> >
> > Quite simply put, the antecedent of AUTOU and AUTON in John 1:3 is hO
> > LOGOS; the antecedent noun is masculine singular and therefore the gender
> > of AUTOU and AUTON is masculine singular. The gender of LOGOS is masculine
> > but that fact doesn't imply anything about biological gender.
> > --
> >
> > Carl W. Conrad
> > Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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