[B-Greek] 1 Tm 4.2, kausteriazo, etc.

Timrake at aol.com Timrake at aol.com
Wed Dec 8 11:58:47 EST 2004


Kevin,

Well, my old classmate . . . and always resourceful librarian.

The passive voice is to be considered, for sure, but it may as well convey 
the thought of effective result or consequence. Though the middle could be used 
to stress culpability its force would here not be required since there seems 
to be no question who is at fault. And besides, while cauterization was likely 
at times self-administered it was most common for someone else to perform the 
procedure. (Here the agent would also be a malignant spirit.)

The second point argues most strongly, I think. Their obsession or 
preoccupation with purity betrays the fact that they are most impure, suffering from a 
defiled conscience. And rather than obtaining a good or clean conscience 
through grace (God freely absolving sins for the sake of Christ)—which means and 
requires admitting that one is defiled—they compensate through asceticism (or any 
number of overt forms of self-righteousness, which is what hypocrisy 
involves, righteousness coram homine [hominibus, mundo] and not coram Deo).

And the third point reiterates this.

However, I see that Knight (citing Spicq in reference to Eph. 4.19) 
understands it differently. (BTW, does anyone have the Liddon Commentary available in a 
pdf. file?).

What does Mounce say about "pillar and ground"?

Pr. Tim Rake
Praise Lutheran Church
Maryville, TN
In a message dated 12/8/04 11:19:00 AM, cierpke at prodigy.net writes:


> Tim:
> Bill Mounce give three reasons for taking it as
> "brand"
> 
> 1). The participle is passive suggesting it is Satan
> who does the branding
> 
> 2). It fits the imagery of the section. Paul has just
> called his oppents hypocritical liars. For emphasis he
> points out that although they claim tob e from God,
> they have the stamp of Satan on them. They are his
> agents
> 
> 3). This interpreation does not disaggee with the
> description fo the opponents as hypocrites
> 
> from Mounce, William D. The Pasoral Epistles in the
> Word Biblical Commentary. Vol. 46. Nashville,
> Tennessee: Thomas Nelson. 2000. pages 237-238.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --- Timrake at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > New on the list.
> >
> > Your exegetical thoughts on the "precise" meaning of
> > kausteriazo in 1 Tim
> > 4.2. Authorities are divided between "to brand (a
> > slave)" and "to cauterize." (I
> > lean toward "brand" but this is not decisive as the
> > other possibility seems
> > just as natural to the thought of he context.)
> >
> > And also, anything that you might know of on the
> > imagery behind 1 Tim 3.15,
> > "pillar and ground of truth"? Here I am looking for
> > the (once again) "precise"
> > meaning of hedraioma (which so far in my research
> > remains too general for my
> > liking) and how/why stulos (pillar) is coupled with
> > it. Is this a bulwark or
> > rampart, or "ground" as the old KJV renders it?
> >
> > What is St. Paul drawing on for his imagery? The
> > colonnades of the Temple (or
> > the twin pillars at its entrance)? The memorials
> > (that served as witnesses)
> > erected in various structures?
> >
> > Pr. Tim Rake
> > Praise Lutheran Church
> > Maryville, TN 37801
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