[B-Greek] 1 Tm 4.2, kausteriazo, etc.
Kevin W. Woodruff
cierpke at prodigy.net
Wed Dec 8 16:32:12 EST 2004
Tim:
Liddon's commentary can be found
at<http://www.dabar.org/NewTestament/Commentaries/1-Timothy/Liddon/liddon-main.html>,
but in html, not pdf format.
Kevin
--- Timrake at aol.com wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Well, my old classmate . . . and always resourceful
> librarian.
>
> The passive voice is to be considered, for sure, but
> it may as well convey
> the thought of effective result or consequence.
> Though the middle could be used
> to stress culpability its force would here not be
> required since there seems
> to be no question who is at fault. And besides,
> while cauterization was likely
> at times self-administered it was most common for
> someone else to perform the
> procedure. (Here the agent would also be a malignant
> spirit.)
>
> The second point argues most strongly, I think.
> Their obsession or
> preoccupation with purity betrays the fact that they
> are most impure, suffering from a
> defiled conscience. And rather than obtaining a good
> or clean conscience
> through grace (God freely absolving sins for the
> sake of Christ)âwhich means and
> requires admitting that one is defiledâthey
> compensate through asceticism (or any
> number of overt forms of self-righteousness, which
> is what hypocrisy
> involves, righteousness coram homine [hominibus,
> mundo] and not coram Deo).
>
> And the third point reiterates this.
>
> However, I see that Knight (citing Spicq in
> reference to Eph. 4.19)
> understands it differently. (BTW, does anyone have
> the Liddon Commentary available in a
> pdf. file?).
>
> What does Mounce say about "pillar and ground"?
>
> Pr. Tim Rake
> Praise Lutheran Church
> Maryville, TN
> In a message dated 12/8/04 11:19:00 AM,
> cierpke at prodigy.net writes:
>
>
> > Tim:
> > Bill Mounce give three reasons for taking it as
> > "brand"
> >
> > 1). The participle is passive suggesting it is
> Satan
> > who does the branding
> >
> > 2). It fits the imagery of the section. Paul has
> just
> > called his oppents hypocritical liars. For
> emphasis he
> > points out that although they claim tob e from
> God,
> > they have the stamp of Satan on them. They are his
> > agents
> >
> > 3). This interpreation does not disaggee with the
> > description fo the opponents as hypocrites
> >
> > from Mounce, William D. The Pasoral Epistles in
> the
> > Word Biblical Commentary. Vol. 46. Nashville,
> > Tennessee: Thomas Nelson. 2000. pages 237-238.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > --- Timrake at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > New on the list.
> > >
> > > Your exegetical thoughts on the "precise"
> meaning of
> > > kausteriazo in 1 Tim
> > > 4.2. Authorities are divided between "to brand
> (a
> > > slave)" and "to cauterize." (I
> > > lean toward "brand" but this is not decisive as
> the
> > > other possibility seems
> > > just as natural to the thought of he context.)
> > >
> > > And also, anything that you might know of on the
> > > imagery behind 1 Tim 3.15,
> > > "pillar and ground of truth"? Here I am looking
> for
> > > the (once again) "precise"
> > > meaning of hedraioma (which so far in my
> research
> > > remains too general for my
> > > liking) and how/why stulos (pillar) is coupled
> with
> > > it. Is this a bulwark or
> > > rampart, or "ground" as the old KJV renders it?
> > >
> > > What is St. Paul drawing on for his imagery? The
> > > colonnades of the Temple (or
> > > the twin pillars at its entrance)? The memorials
> > > (that served as witnesses)
> > > erected in various structures?
> > >
> > > Pr. Tim Rake
> > > Praise Lutheran Church
> > > Maryville, TN 37801
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