FW: [B-Greek] unicode for typing Greek

Curtis Hinson curtis at curtishinson.com
Fri Dec 24 11:51:00 EST 2004


R. Buth is right, we are talking about the same thing after all.  I
misunderstood which system his "e.g." referred too but I just took a look at
the additional example he provided along with the original link.  That's a
very nice page Microsoft has about it.

I do have the polytonic system installed but normally I use only monotonic
(as Greeks do).  I taught the house-church that meets in my home to use
monotonic Koine Greek (and they speak with the modern pronunciation).
Although they know how to read and write polytonic if they need to, I have
never been convinced by the polytonic system.  It hits me a bit like
vowel-points in Hebrew do.

Bless the Name
Curtis Hinson
Abilene Christian University

-----Original Message-----
From: R Yochanan Bitan Buth [mailto:ybitan at mscc.huji.ac.il] 
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:06 AM
To: 'Curtis Hinson'; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: RE: [B-Greek] unicode for typing Greek



We may be talking about the same thing.

Curtis Hinson egrapse
>This layout may not follow the Greek typewriter keyboard, but it does
follow the Greek Windows XP layout which I use.  If the issue is
authenticity to national users, I wouldn't discount the XP layout overmuch
because it dates back to the original Greek support in Windows, I've been
using it for several versions of the OS.  I'm guessing there are some Greeks
who are quite comfortable with the Microsoft Greek layout who never even
used an actual typewriter. :-)
>

I am asking for consideration of the Windows XP layout. It is called the
Polytonic keyboard and is activated in XP as an additional keyboard. It
should be the same as the basic Greek typewriter layout. Documentation is
available at http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/perspectives/polytonic.mspx

Blessings
Randall Buth

 
Randall Buth, PhD
Director, Biblical Language Center
www.biblicalulpan.org
and Director, Biblical Studies in Israel
Hebrew University, Rothberg International School ybitan at mscc.huji.ac.il

-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Hinson [mailto:curtis at curtishinson.com] 
Sent: Friday, 24 December, 2004 12:09
To: ybitan at mscc.huji.ac.il
Subject: RE: [B-Greek] unicode for typing Greek

This layout may not follow the Greek typewriter keyboard, but it does follow
the Greek Windows XP layout which I use.  If the issue is authenticity to
national users, I wouldn't discount the XP layout overmuch because it dates
back to the original Greek support in Windows, I've been using it for
several versions of the OS.  I'm guessing there are some Greeks who are
quite comfortable with the Microsoft Greek layout who never even used an
actual typewriter. :-)

Bless the Name
Curtis Hinson
Abilene Christian University

-----Original Message-----
From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of R Yochanan Bitan
Buth
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:46 PM
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [B-Greek] unicode for typing Greek


EGRAPSEN yosef weaks
>Well, it took me two weeks, but I did get the utility into
penultimate 
shape. KeyInGreek is an app for OS X 10.2 and up that assists in the 
visual typing in of Unicode Greek text. It features adding diacriticals 
after the primary characters and auto-pasting.
 
Also, as Randall stated before, a true keyboard input is the ultimate 
goal, so I have finished creating a Unicode Keyboard Layout for use in

OS X tailored specifically to keying in Biblical Greek. I'd love it if

folks could have a look at the proposed keyboard layout in the .pdf 
file and make any suggestions before I post the Keyboard file itself. These
resources may be found at:
 
http://stuwww.tcu.edu/~jweaks/resources.html
 
Cheers,
Joe Weaks
= = =
Personally, I would recommend using the national Greek typewriter keyboard
layout as the base. The above link and layout are not such a keyboard.

E.g., omega is 'v', upsilon is 'y' and theta is 'u', chi is 'x', psi is 'c'
and ksi is 'j'. 'w' places a final-lunate-sigma. Fortunately, the others are
similar to English.
 
If one is going to use unicode one might as well use a standard keyboard.
You just might be typing on a terminal in Athens someday. 
 
Roy Brown of Accordance, with appropriate foresight, provided an Israeli
Hebrew keyboard option for Hebrew. Please consider the same for the Greek
side of the equation. I have a friend here in Jerusalem who uses Accordance
and is 'going unicode', he would appreciate a Greek version.
 
Blessings
Randall Buth
 
 
 

 

Randall Buth, PhD

Director, Biblical Language Center

www.biblicalulpan.org

and Director, Biblical Studies in Israel

Hebrew University, Rothberg International School

ybitan at mscc.huji.ac.il

 

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