[B-Greek] (no subject)

Barry Hofstetter nebarry at verizon.net
Sun Dec 26 21:53:40 EST 2004


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From: "Jim West" <jwest at highland.net>
To: "Barry Hofstetter" <nebarry at verizon.net>
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Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] (no subject)


> To date, no one who has responded has offered a definition of "teleion"- so 
> I'll give it a whack.  You are right in seeing that most translations render 
> it "perfect". However, this is not necessarily the best translation.  The word 
> means something like "mature" or even in our parlance "grown up" and only in a 
> derivative way might it imply what we mean by the word "perfect" - but only in 
> the sense of "complete".    The verbal form in fact means "complete, bring to 
> an end, finish, bring in full measure", etc.
>
> Nonetheless, when king jimbob commissioned his reworking of wycliffe, 
> "perfect" meant "complete" and not "without error or fault".

Do you think TO TELEION will have either error or fault in 1 Cor 13:10?  BTW, 
the KJV was not a reworking of Wycliffe, but of Tyndale.

That is precisely the sense, however: it refers to that which is complete, to 
which nothing need be added.  If maturity, no need for further growth: if moral 
state, nothing that needs to be improved, if my wife's cooking, perfection 
indeed...

N.E. Barry Hofstetter
Adjunct Faculty, The Center for Urban Theological Studies
         Philadelphia, PA
http://www.cuts.edu
Adjunct Faculty, Reformed Theological Seminary
         Washington, D.C.
http://www.rts.edu/campuses/washington_dc/index.cfm

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