[B-Greek] 1 Cor. 13:10

John Fincher jcfincher at charter.net
Sun Dec 26 21:56:38 EST 2004


(Sorry I left the subject line empty when I posted the initial question)

Question for Mr. Somsel & Mr. Hofstetter:

To Mr. Somsel: I thought that gender didn't matter in Greek, just as in German, madchen (which means girl) is neuter.  Are you saying that if the adjective is substantive, then gender matters?  Is there other times when this is true?

 
To Mr. Hofstetter:  Mr. West was correct in his reply.  I am not questioning ANY translations.  I for one am not in a position to do so.  (Who am I, so to speak).  But I was just wondering if the better word for TELEIOS is mature, then why do none of the them (I'm not saying all, as I of course have seen every one, but I looked at 6 or 7), rendere "perfect".  Also, would you please clarify what you mean by the fallacy you speak of?  I may be being dense, but I'm not sure I know what you mean.

John Fincher
 
Sorry, was feeling short and pithy when I wrote the comment.  However, TELEIOS does not simply imply mature, but fully mature, not able to grow any more, and 
hence complete.  This is what the English word "perfect" means: nothing need be added.  You will notice that the lexicons so define the word...

"The real meaning fallacy" is what one all too often hears from the pulpit, when the pastor says "Now what the Greek really means here..." and then proceeds to define the word with a different gloss or description than contained in the English translation before him.  95% of the time, the translation is right, and the pastor is wrong...

> N.E. Barry Hofstetter
> Adjunct Faculty, The Center for Urban Theological Studies
>          Philadelphia, PA
> http://www.cuts.edu
> Adjunct Faculty, Reformed Theological Seminary
>          Washington, D.C.
> http://www.rts.edu/campuses/washington_dc/index.cfm
> 
> And me:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/nebarry/
> 
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> 

John Fincher
McDonough, GA




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