[B-Greek] AGAPE in the NT

Mike Marchywka marchywka at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 5 11:00:51 EST 2004


>AGAPAW can be used for the pharisees love of places of
>honour (Lk. 11:43), thier love of praise from men (Jn.
>12:43) and Balaams love of unrighteousness (2 Peter
>2:15).

Then, this is not a synonym for "Christian love" or
"selfless love"? This sounds like a rather large difference from
popular belief(not that the latter is trustworthy :)). What usages do you 
think encouraged the
popular association of "agape" with " good love "?
Are there any cues in the text suggestive of sarcasm especially in
last occurence?  I suppose altruistic love of something inherently
gratifying could be considered funny.


Thanks.

( I have only been skimming this thread so forgive me if question
has been asked. )



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>From: Jody Barnard <jbnard at yahoo.co.uk>
>To: dbielby at bloomingtonvineyard.org
>CC: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] AGAPE in the NT
>Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:43:25 +0000 (GMT)
>
>  --- David Bielby <dbielby at bloomingtonvineyard.org>
>wrote: > In the GNT can someone have AGAPAW for an
>inanimate
> > object (or does the way
> > AGAPAW appears in the NT allow for this application?
> >  Is it correct to say
> > that AGAPAW does not occur in the NT without at
> > least an inference or a
> > direct expression that it is coming from God either
> > to or through a man?
> >
> > Is it correct to say that PHILEW comes only from men
> > and never from God?
> >
> > David Bielby
> > Pastor
> > VCF of B/N
> > dbielby at bloomingtonvineyard.org
> > www.bloomingtonvineyard.org
> >
>
>
>David,
>
>AGAPAW can be used for the pharisees love of places of
>honour (Lk. 11:43), thier love of praise from men (Jn.
>12:43) and Balaams love of unrighteousness (2 Peter
>2:15).
>
>PHILEW can be used for the Father's love for the Son
>(Jn 5:20), his love for the disciples (16:27) and
>Jesus' love for Lazarus (11:36).
>
>Although AGAPAW and PHILEW encompass slightly
>different semantic spheres there is enough overlap in
>their meanings that means they can often be used
>interchangeably. Your comments imply that there is a
>special Divine love intrinsic to the word AGAPAW, this
>is NOT the case. I would recommend Carson's excellent
>little book 'Exegetical Falacies' which has a good
>article on this and related issues.
>
>Jody Barnard
>
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