[B-Greek] SOI in Mark 2:18

Polycarp66 at aol.com Polycarp66 at aol.com
Sun Feb 8 23:53:23 EST 2004


In a message dated 2/8/2004 11:17:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
DJNordlund at aol.com writes:
In a message dated 2/8/2004 6:31:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu writes:
At 8:59 PM -0500 2/8/04, <bertdehaan at gosympatico.ca> wrote:
>Mark 2:18 b.
>DIA TI hOI MAQHTAI IWANNOU KAI  hOI MAQHTAI TWN FARISAIWN NHSTEUOUSIN, hOI
>DE SOI MAQHTAI OU NHSTEUOUSIN;
>
>Is SOI 2nd person personal pronoun dat. sg. (disciples to you, ie. your
>disciples) or is it the Nom. pl. masc. modifying MAQHTAI.
>It probably is not a big deal because in both cases it means "your
>disciples", but I am interested in knowing.

It is the pronominal adjective (SOS/SH/SON); the dative of the personal
pronoun would never be used this way as an adnominal modifier.
-- 

Carl W. Conrad
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I obviously have a long way to go in my understanding of Greel grammar, and I 
sometimes despair of ever getting to the point of where I can read the Greek 
New Testament without having to "validate" my understanding by going back to 
an English translation. Using BibleWorks 6.0, I looked up SOI in the UBS 
dictionary (Barclay-Newman) and it is parsed as 2nd person pronoun, dative, 
singular 
of SU.  Can somebody provide additional clarification to a struggling student 
of Koine Greek?
______

There is a SOI which is the dative personal pronoun and comes from SU as your 
dictionary indicates.  The form used in Mk 2.18, however is an adjective from 
SOS.  If it were intending to say "your disciples" using a pronominal form 
rather than an adjectival form, it would have been a genitive rather than a 
dative (SOU).

gfsomsel



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