[B-Greek] Jacob and James

tmcos at rogers.com tmcos at rogers.com
Sat Feb 28 13:12:17 EST 2004


Dear Arie, thank you for your feed back, much appreciated. It just 
seems odd that when the NT quotes other OT figures it seems to 
retain their name as the LXX does, but Jacob seems to be an 
exception. Even the name IHSOUS is used of the Joshua of the 
OT in Acts 7:45 and Heb 4:8. It is interesting that while modern 
English translations have "Joshua", the King James Version had 
translated this name directly from the Greek as "Jesus". 
A.T.Robertson also maintains the position in his "Word Pictures of 
the New Testament' that James was a Hellenized form of Jacob. 
In Heb 11:22 the "Jospeh" of the OT is spelled the same way as 
the LXX has it. It just seems odd that the name Jacob would have 
under gone a different change in morphology.

Tony Costa




> From: "Arie Dirkzwager" <dirkzwager at pandora.be>
> Date: 2004/02/28 Sat AM 03:51:02 EST
> To: "Tony Costa" <tmcos at rogers.com>,  <b-
greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Jacob and James
> 
> Dear Tony,
> 
> Flavius Josephus calls (e.g.) the patriarchs Jacob and Joseph 
IAKWBOS and
> IWSHPOS. Therefore I think that using Greek additions like -OS 
is a sign of
> adaptation to the Greek environment.
> 
> For people who use Jacob and Joseph for the patriarchs these 
names are
> familiar from the religious realm of the Old Testament. These 
Jacob and
> Joseph did not live in a Greek environment.
> If those people use Jacobus and Josep(h)us for living people it 
is a sign
> that those Jacobs and Josephs usually got a name with -OS in 
the Greek
> world.
> 
> Arie
> 
> Dr. A. Dirkzwager
> Hoeselt, Belgium
> e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
> 
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: "Tony Costa" <tmcos at rogers.com>
> Aan: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Verzonden: zaterdag 28 februari 2004 7:34
> Onderwerp: [B-Greek] Jacob and James
> 
> 
> Dear Friends, when the NT alludes to the patriarch Jacob it 
renders the name
> IAKWB (eg. Heb.11:21). However, when it mentions James, it 
uses IAKWBOS (eg.
> Matt.13:55; James 1:1) Why does the NT render this name 
differently by
> adding OS to the end of IAKWB thus giving us IAKWBOS? Why 
did it not simply
> use IAKWB?
> 
> Tony Costa
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