[B-Greek] Phil 2:11 Revisited

Polycarp66 at aol.com Polycarp66 at aol.com
Mon Jan 12 19:46:05 EST 2004


In a message dated 1/12/2004 1:57:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
qodeshlayhvh at juno.com writes:

> Some time ago I suggested on this list that the words KURIOS IHSOUS
> CRISTOS might be taken as an exclamation of praise "Lord Jesus Christ!"
> rather than a nominal sentence, "Jesus Christ is Lord." Carl Conrad
> responded to me off-list with basically two arguments:
> 
> 1) The words KURIOS IHSOUS CRISTOS are a creedal formularization in
> origin and since creeds do not normally contain exclamatory expressions
> the words in question ought to be taken as a nominal sentence, "Jesus
> Christ is Lord."
> 
> 2) The verb EXOMOLOGEISQAI means "to admit the truth of a statement." And
> so what follows in the hOTI clause is very likely to be a nominal
> sentence, i.e., the statement of truth so admitted.
> 
> Although I am not wholly convinced by these arguments, I am beginning to
> come around to this point of view.
> 
> What I would like to know from the members of this list is this:
> Where in the GNT and the LXX do we find nominal sentences similar to
> KURIOS IHSOUS CRISTOS that meet the following restrictions:
> 
> 1) They must NOT contain:
>     definite articles
>     copula
>     pronouns
>     adjectives
>     participles
> 
> 2) They may contain:
>     proper nouns
>     titles
>     common nouns
> 

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How do these two match your criteria?

Dt 4.34 (LXX) 

hWSTE EIDHSAI SE hOTI KURIOS hO QEOS SOU, hOUTOS QEOS ESTIN, KAI OUK ESTIN 
ETI PLHN AUTOU

Note that here the Hebrew reads )aT.fH HfR:)"Tf LfDa(aT C.iY YHWH HW. 
Hf):elHiYM which would be "You have been caused to know that YHWH, He is God."  There 
is no possessive pronoun.

1 Kg 18.21 (LXX) 

KAI  PROSHGAGEN HLIOU PROS PANTAS KAI EIPEN AUTOIS HLIOU hEWS POTE hUMEIS 
XWLANEITE EP' AMFOTERAIS TAIS IGNUAIS?  *** EI ESTIN KURIOS hO QEOS, *** 
POREUESQE OPISW AUTOU.  KAI OUK APEKRIQH hO LAOS LOGON.

gfsomsel



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