[B-Greek] Matthew 26:29 and TOUTOU TOU

Maurice A. O'Sullivan mauros at iol.ie
Sun Jan 25 11:54:33 EST 2004


At 16:07 25/01/2004, Retief M <13365134 at sun.ac.za> wrote:

>I have noticed a tendency in some modern translations to translate TOUTOU TOU
>as "any" (thus translating the first part of Matthew 26:29 as "I shall not 
>drink any wine
>till I drink it with you anew...), based on the assumption that it is a 
>so-called Latinate
>use of the Greek (if my terminology is not mistaken). Could anyone explain 
>this idea
>of a "Latinate use" of the Greek with regard to TOUTOU TOU to me? I find 
>it somewhat
>confusing, and cannot understand why TOUTOU TOU is not translated as 
>"this" in all
>translations of this passage.

Moule [ Moule, C.F.D. An Idiom Book of N.T Greek. Cambridge: C.U.P, 1984.] 
on p.122:

 >> hOUTOS can mean 1. A fairly emphatic _this one_ ( in contrast to 
EKEINOS, _that one_ )
                                    2. A quite unemphatic _he_ almost 
exactly the same as AUTOS above
                                        Roughly the Latin equivalent would 
be _hic_  <<

And, of course, the Vulgate reads >> ....... non bibam amodo de hoc 
genimine .......<<

I would think that "any" is the most idiomatic English for indicating a 
lack of emphasis.



Maurice A. O'Sullivan  [ Bray, Ireland ]
mauros at iol.ie





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