[B-Greek] Matthew 26:29 and TOUTOU TOU
Harold R. Holmyard III
hholmyard at ont.com
Sun Jan 25 16:11:59 EST 2004
Dear Maurice,
>Moule [ Moule, C.F.D. An Idiom Book of N.T Greek. Cambridge: C.U.P, 1984.]
>on p.122:
>
> >> hOUTOS can mean 1. A fairly emphatic _this one_ ( in contrast to
>EKEINOS, _that one_ )
> 2. A quite unemphatic _he_ almost
>exactly the same as AUTOS above
> Roughly the Latin equivalent would
>be _hic_ <<
>
>And, of course, the Vulgate reads >> ....... non bibam amodo de hoc
>genimine .......<<
>
>I would think that "any" is the most idiomatic English for indicating a
>lack of emphasis.
HH: Moule's example seems to deal with hOUTOS and EKEINOS when they are
function as pronouns. In Matthew 26:29 TOUTOU is modifying a noun, so
Moule's idea may not be transferable. I know you are just trying to explain
the translation "any," but is it a good translation? Is it an unemphatic
usage? It is the institution of the Lord's Supper, a highly significant
moment, and Jesus uses the demonstrative of the bread in verse 26 and of
the wine in verse 28, where the translations clearly should be "this." Why
should the demonstrative in verse 29 be treated differently? And even if
the unemphatic "any" were used, shouldn't it be "any more wine"? Jesus was
drinking wine on that occasion, perhaps as He spoke.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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