[B-Greek] 1 Thes. 1:3, fine

Rick Duggin rduggin at comcast.net
Sat Nov 6 02:06:06 EST 2004


Once again, I am grateful for the excellent responses from Iver and
Harold.
Just a couple of short responses should conclude my comments in this
study.
 
Iver asked:
Is there any translation that does not take that phrase with
MNHMONEUONTES?
 
Good question.   I know that ESV et al. VSS take the phrase w.
MNHMONEUONTES
because they move the phrase from the end of the sentence (as it stands
in the Greek)
to make it clear for the English reader that they believe it goes w.
remembering 
("remembering before our God and Father.").
 
Although Phillips makes it just as clear that he does not agree with
this position 
(rendering it, "the life that you live before God"), I can't be as sure
about the [N]KJV, 
ASV, NASB, all of which allow the sentence to retain its Greek word
order (as much 
as is possible in English).   I don't know if their reason for this
retention is agreement 
with the position of Phillips, or a preference to leave the sentence as
it is so that the 
reader can decide for himself how to interpret it.   
 
You may compare the related idea in Acts 10:4
hAI PROSEUCAI SOU...ANEBHSAN EIS MNHMOSUNON EMPROSQEN TOU QEOU
 
Excellent parallel.   
 
And Harold's point about the prayer starting in v.2 and continuing
through the participles
also makes good sense.
 
Thanks for giving me more to think about.
 
Rick Duggin



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