[B-Greek] Jn. 8:40

Minton, Ron rminton at bible.edu
Tue Nov 23 12:31:51 EST 2004


Yes, Carl, this is what I was examining.  I wondered if there was a specific
name to the situation in which the nom. masc. sing. rel. prn can take a
first, second, or third person verb.
Ron Minton

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl W. Conrad [mailto:cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:13 PM
To: D Jongkind
Cc: B-Greek

You might compare the construction of the opening of the Lord's Prayer (Mt
6:9): PATER hHMWN hO EN TOIS OURANOIS ...

Here the attributive phrase hO EN TOIS OURANOIS is equivalent to a relative
clause, as in the standard English, "who art in Heaven ..." Note the
"art"--the archaic second-singular verb; so in German "der Du in Himmel
bist ..."

The relative pronoun may fit with a first- or second-person pronoun, even
if it's most common to find it with third-person nouns and pronouns.

>What is the Greek construction called in John 8:40 when the relative
>pronoun hOS seems to be the subject of the verb I speak? It would seem
>that a third singular verb should be found, but we find a first person.
>Does anyone have additional examples of this?
-- 
Carl W. Conrad
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