[B-Greek] TI in Gal 2.6

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Nov 30 06:43:13 EST 2004


At 2:00 AM -0600 11/30/04, Steven Lo Vullo wrote:
>On Nov 29, 2004, at 12:05 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>
>> BDAG s.v. DOKEW §2 a. intr.
>> 	alpha: have the appearance ...
>> 	beta: be influential, be recognized as being something, have a
>> reputation (cp. Sus 5; 2 Macc 1:13. hOI DOKOUNTES (Eur., Hec 295;
>> Petosiris, fgm 6 In. 58 hOI DOKOUNTES = the prominent dignitaries;
>> Herodian
>> 6,1,1; Jos. C. Ap. 1, 67) the influential men Gal 2:2, 6b. A fuller
>> expression with the same meaning, with inf. added (X., Cyr. 7, 1, 41;
>> Pla,
>> Gorg 472a, Euthd 303c hOI DOKOUNTES EINAI TI; Plut. Mor 212b DOKOUNTAS
>> EINAI TINAS; Epict., Ench 33, 12; Herodian 4, 2,5; Philo, Mos. 2, 241)
>> vss.
>> 6a, 9 (Pla., Apol. 6, 21b hOI DOKOUNTES SOFOI EINAI) ...
>>
>> In usages cited there we see the nominative of the predicate word when
>> the
>> subject of DOKOUNTES is nominative, the accusative with DOKOUNTAS
>> EINAI.
>
>Carl, would you happen to have a fuller quotation from Plut. Mor 212b?
>This seems puzzling to me. I'm not sure why the accusative case of the
>participle would dictate that the pronoun would also be accusative.
>============

I'm sorry, Steven. I have just checked anew as I recall checking at least a
couple times in recent years and can't find texts or translations of the
Moralia of Plutarch (the Lives, of course, are readily available in Greek
and translation at more than one site); I have found "Selections from the
Moralia" in translation, but that lacks the standard reference-numbering
used by LSJ and BDAG and I have no idea which of the many essays in the
Moralia this text may be in. I'm forwarding this to Jeffrey Gibson who has
access to the TLG CD-ROM and may be able to find that reference with little
difficulty:
	Plutarch, Moralia 212b
My guess, without having seen the text in question, is that DOKOUNTAS EINAI
TINAS is preceded by a verb requiring an accusative object, e.g. EIDON
POLLOUS DOKOUNTAS EINAI TINAS ("I've seen lots of people reputed to be
somebodies.") But let's see if we can find out in exactly what context the
phrase appears in the text of Plutarch.
-- 

Carl W. Conrad
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