[B-Greek] Rev 1 1 => Main Clause
George F. Somsel
gfsomsel at juno.com
Sun Oct 31 15:36:45 EST 2004
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:34:43 +0100 "Peter Streitenberger"
<ps2866 at bingo-ev.de> writes:
>
> APOKALUYIS IHSOU CRISTOU hHN EDWKEN AUTWi
> hO QEOS TOIS DOULOIS AUTOU hA DEI GENESQAI EN TACEI, KAI ESHMANEN
> APOSTEILAS DIA TOU AGGELOU AUTU TWi DOULWi AUTOU IWANNHi, hOS
> EMARTURHSEN
> TON LOGON TOU QEOU KAI THN MARTURIAN IHSOU CRISTOU hOSA EIDEN.
> (Thank's to Carl)
>
>
> I'd translate:
>
> And he [God or Jesus] indicated his servant John - who bore wittness
> to the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ - the things
> [i.e. the content of the revelation] he [i.e. John] saw [i.e. by
> vision], sending by his angel.
>
>
> Some further considerations:
>
> - the sentence is complete in itself - there's no need to import an
> "it" as a word-substitution.
> - What sense does the hOSA EIDEN in connection with LOGOS TOU QEOU
> and MARTURIA IHSOU XRISTOU make ? There's some phantasy needed....
> - EIDENAI in the revelation usually is used to show the visionary
> experieces of John. There is no need to search which
> extra-revelation-things John actually saw.
> - LOGOS TOU QEOU and MARTURIA IHSOU XRISTOU can just stand alone,
> without any need no further appositions - just as 1,9 and 6,9
> - the Neuter plural - as hOSA - is usually used to refer to the
> things John saw: hA EIDES KAI hA EISIN KAI hA MELLEI GINESQAI META
> TAUTA
> - The next Vers contains TA GEGRAMMENA (Neuter Plural) again, just
> as I'd refer the hOSA to the content of the revelation.
> - The transmission is DIA TOU AGGELOU AUTOU just as Rev 22 16. The
> object there is TAUTA (Neuter Plural) again.
>
>
> - my key issue with EMARTURHSEN actually was, that the content of
> the revelation (imo: hOSA EIDEN) couldn't be one of the things John
> bore witness to in the aorist-past and so it should't be taken to
> the appositional clause.
>
>
> Peter
> ---
Peter,
The translation you propose is impossible since TWi DOULWi AUTOU IWANNHi
is in the dative case indicating that it is the indirect object, but you
are making into an accusative. It must be "And he [God or Jesus]
indicated ** to his servant, John**."
george
gfsomsel
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