[B-Greek] Re: Luke 9:13

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Sat Sep 18 11:04:25 EDT 2004


At 10:59 AM -0400 9/18/04, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>FORWARDED for Garbo Hoy (this message was sent to the wrong address but
>came to the attention of moderators and was clearly meant for the list):
>
>Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:26:24 +0800 (CST)
>From: Garbo Hui <hpy_2703 at yahoo.com.hk>
>Subject: luke 9.13
>
>Greeting to all,
>
>Could anyone help me to solve a problem on the grammatical use of one word
>in Greek?
>(1)In Luke 9.13,  there is OI DE EIPAN, why there is an article OI appears
>here? what does it demonstrate? Is OI DE is an idiomatic use in Greek, or
>it's just a style of Lukan's writing?

hOI in hOI DE EIPAN is not an article but a pronoun (this is a survival
from much older Greek, even before the pronoun hO/hH/TO came to be used as
a definite article. We find it particularly with DE: hOI DE EIPAN, "and/but
they said" or "but they replied."

>(2)H ARTOI PENTE KAI ICQUES
>What is the meaning of H ? Does H...KAI has the relation?

The H goes with the PLEION that precedes it: and means "than":

	OUK EISIN hHMIN PLEION H ARTOI PENTE KAI ICQUES DUO

	"We don't have more than five loaves and two fish. (lit. "There are
not to us more than five loaves and two fish."

>Garbo Hui
>(I am a preacher and also a research editor. My job is mainly to do the
>editing of  Chinese books about  Bible study. I am interested in Greek and
>now I am teaching NT Greek in my Church. I am trying to help my church
>members and myself to read Bible in Greek)

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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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