[B-Greek] Luke 22:70 & 23:3 'you say'?

Oun Kwon kwonbbl at gmail.com
Thu Aug 11 20:56:24 EDT 2005


On 8/11/05, craig <newsgroupstuff at people.net.au> wrote:
> 
> ... 
> I guess my current opinion is tending towards a kind of ambiguity. Or
> perhaps moreso,  ....

Hi there.

The translation of these text should be literal to keep the readers
aware of possible ambiguity.

I take it as ambiguous (intentional).

Oun Kwon.

P.S.  (Just for your interest, the following is the continuation on
the same theme.  Since it is not directly related to Greek per se, I
put it under P.S. )

Not only that, in my opinion, because of ambiguity, the rest of His
disciples seemed not aware of his betrayal.

Even after the scene of Jesus' being arrested after
greeted by Judas' kissing.  That means all the
Gospel statements about Judas (how bad he was, Satan, etc.) should be
acknowledged as anachronistic
insertio by the Gospel authors.

And even beyond that.  Judas must be acting unaffected afterwards (may
be he did not fully realize
what he has done) through trial and crucifixion of Jesus and alive and
was one of the eleven when the risen Lord appeared to them.  This
eleven is twelve - (minus) Thomas; not as usually taken as twelve -
Judas.  (Cf. John 20:) The Matthean pericope of Judas' 30 silver
pieces and suicide is a parachronic (two scenes being described
alternately) but incorporating flash-back from the future. 

All these  apparently come clear to the modern readers, but to the
disciples the reality was remain hidden, for the pronouncements from
the Master's mouth was  ambiguous and mysterious to them, men of
little faith.



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