[B-Greek] EN with Genitive?
Elizabeth Kline
kline-dekooning at earthlink.net
Wed Aug 17 10:53:56 EDT 2005
On Aug 17, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>> Perhaps there something missing, EN might be local without an
>> argument.
>>
>
> George is right -- there is ellipsis here (of DOMWi, DOMOIS, DWMASI
> or the like -- and it is really a common one in Greek,
> particularly older Greek. LSG lists this passage in the article on EN,
>
> A. With Dative,
> I. of place,
> 2. elliptic, in such phrases as ἐEN ALKINOOIO Od.7.132 ,
> cf.Leg.Gort.2.21, etc.;EIN AIDAO Il.22.389 , Att. ἐEN hAiDOU (v.
> hAiDHS): later EN TOIS TINOS PRev.Laws 38.1 (iii B. C.), Ev.Luc.
> 2.49; EN hHMETEROU Hdt. 1.35, 7.8.d; EM PANDIONOS IG22.1138.8 ;
> ἐEN DHMOTIWINIDWN ib.2.841b21; EN TWN POLEWN ib. 12.56.14: mostly
> with pr.n., but sts. with Appellatives, as, EN AFNEIOU PATROS Il.
> 6.47 ; ἐEN ANDROS EUSEBESTATOU E.IA926 ...
>
> Note that the passage in Eur. Iph. in Aulide is cited, but also
> note the NT example cited: Lk 2:49 KAI EIPEN PROS AUTOUS: TI hOTI
> EZHTEITE ME? OUK HiDEITE hOTI EN TOIS TOU PATROS MOU DEI EINAI ME?
Yes that is the way David Kovacs and E. P. Coleridge render it but
take a look at Paul Roche (Euripiedes Ten Plays p251)
"Brought up by Chiron, that god-fearing man ..."
Roche is probably taking liberties, but his switching from location
to agency makes me wonder about how he understood original. It is
precarious to work backward from a moderately free translation.
I am not sure why Luke 2:49 is cited since EN has an argument TOIS in
the dative case.
Lk 2:49 KAI EIPEN PROS AUTOUS: TI hOTI EZHTEITE ME? OUK HiDEITE hOTI
EN TOIS TOU PATROS MOU DEI EINAI ME
Elizabeth Kline
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