[B-Greek] EN with Genitive?

Elizabeth Kline kline-dekooning at earthlink.net
Thu Aug 18 01:40:28 EDT 2005


  EGW D', EN ANDROS EUSEBESTATOU TRAFEIS
  CEIRWNOS, EMAQON TOUS TROPOUS hAPLOUS ECEIN.



Elizabeth Kline wrote:

>> take a look at Paul Roche (Euripides Ten Plays p251)
>>
>> "Brought up by Chiron, that god-fearing man ..."
>>
>> Roche is probably taking liberties, but his switching from location
>> to agency makes me wonder about how he understood original. It is
>> precarious to work backward from a moderately free translation.
>>
>


After reading the introduction to Paul Roche "Euripides Ten Plays" I  
will retract my comment about him "taking liberties" and  
characterizing his work as "a moderately free translation". I was  
wrong on both counts.

It looks like Paul Roche would not be willing to intentionally  
transform an EN location marker into an EN marker of agency. This  
would conflict with his stated purpose. So one must conclude that he  
doesn't agree with the consensus about an ellipsis in EN ANDROS  
EUSEBESTATOU TRAFEIS CEIRWNOS.

On Aug 17, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
> An English version is not really a very good indicator of how the  
> original text should be understood. That's why I've always thought  
> that the Loeb Classical Library volumes were really pretty useless  
> for those who don't have a solid grounding in Greek or Latin.

Any diglot is useless for someone who cannot read the language. But  
digolts are not useless for those who can but need a little help. In  
the case in question Paul Roche either made a mistake, failed to  
recognize an idiom or he made a judgement call that disagrees with  
the consensus.


Elizabeth Kline







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