[B-Greek] "event words"? (Rom 5:2)

Mike Sangrey MSangrey at BlueFeltHat.org
Mon Aug 29 10:06:31 EDT 2005


On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 08:55 -0400, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
> But the point of the original post here was rather that DOXA in the  
> phrase EP' ELPIDI THS DOXHS TOU QEOU may, probably does refer not to  
> an attribute of God but to the event commonly referred to as the  
> PAROUSIA: the coming of the Lord in glory, or "the glorious coming."

A quick suggestion for people's consideration:

It might be better to think of EP' ELPIDI THS DOXHS TOU QEOU as
referring to the 1st coming.  (I realize this turns the text into a
trinitarian one and I'm not wishing to start that conversation here.)
But, in any case, note that Paul goes on to say a few things.

One, the giving of the Holy Spirit which he connects to the hope not
disappointing us.  I'll simply point people to John 14 and note there's
a chronological order to the events of Christ's 1st coming and the
giving of the Holy Spirit.

Two, Paul expands on the event in verses 6 and following.  Christ's
death happened "at just the right time."  That's event is
chronologically directly connected to the 1st coming.

Lastly, doesn't ELPIS carry a stronger sense of assurance than the
English 'hope'?  That would tend to push the phrase to referring to a
past time event as opposed to a future time.

I think there are other cohesive ties in the text.  I won't develop them
here since they connect too strongly to certain theological assumptions.
I wanted to at least deal with the assumption of future time in
reference to the event.

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Mike Sangrey                               (msangrey AT BlueFeltHat.org)
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Landisburg, Pa.
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