[B-Greek] ALLOS, 1 Cor 3:10

Mark Benson proofmb1 at fedex.com
Wed Aug 31 09:36:33 EDT 2005


It seems to me that the author who saw the term used collectively is working 
from the position that the foundation Paul laid was the foundation of faith 
for each person in the church.  The "other" who is building on it is then 
the individual him/herself.

However, if Paul laid the foundation for the church, and another 
minister/evangelist is building on it, then "the other" would not have a 
collective sense at all.  It is just another one (who succeeded Paul).

Mark Benson
proofmb1 at fedex.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Benjamin Pehrson" <benjamin_pehrson at sil.org>
To: "'Paul Toseland'" <toseland at blueyonder.co.uk>; 
<b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] ALLOS, 1 Cor 3:10


> Paul,
>
> Your question is a good one and I think the answer comes down to a
> difference between the unaffected meaning of ALLOS and various nuances of
> meaning that are affected by the context.  Morphologically, I think we 
> have
> to say that ALLOS does not have a collective sense.  The plural form is
> readily available for that (7-8 times in the Corinthian correspondence).
> However, such singular pronouns are frequently used to individualize
> something that the author is addressing to the whole audience. In this 
> way,
> it can have a collective sense even in the singular, but it is dependent 
> on
> context.
>
> This especially happens in 
> subjunctive/conditional/imperative/hypothetical/
> potential clauses, and in fact, it happens with TIS in vv. 12-13: EI DE
> TIS... hEKASTOU...
>
> It happens again in vs. 17 with TIS.  Paul is giving this warning to the
> whole of his 2nd person plural audience, but he individualizes the warning
> by using these singular pronouns.
>
> hEKASTOS itself is interesting in this regard because it is used in
> different contexts to either emphasize each individual ("each and every") 
> or
> each of the whole group ("each and all").  This is supported syntactically
> by the fact that it may agree with either singular or plural verbs.
>
> Blessings,
> Benjamin Pehrson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Paul Toseland
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:53 PM
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [B-Greek] ALLOS, 1 Cor 3:10
>
> 1 Cor 3:10 KATA THN CARIN TOU QEOU THN DOQEISAN MOI hWS SOFOS
> ARKITEKTWN QEMELION EQHKA, ALLOS DE EPOIKODOMEI. hEKASTOS
> DE BLEPETW PWS EPOIKODMEI.
>
> A recently published book interprets hEKASTOS as follows, 'each of the
> builders who
> are included within *the collective term  ALLOS* .'
>
> My question: does ALLOS admit a collective sense? Or  more generally, is
> it possible
> that, despite the singular form ALLOS, Paul might mmean here not,
> 'someone else is
> building on it', but rather, 'others build on it'? I don't see how, but
> maybe I am missing
> something.
>
> Many thanks,
> Paul Toseland
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