[B-Greek] 1 Clement 5:1,3

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at ioa.com
Fri Dec 9 10:32:58 EST 2005


On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:37 PM, Mitch Larramore wrote:

> After listing some OT examples of jealousy and envy,
> this follows:
>
> 1. ALL' hINA TWN ARCAIWN hUPODEIGMATWN PAUSWMEQA,
> EQWMEN EPI TOUS EGGISTA GENOMENOUS AQLHTAS
> LABWMEN THS GENEAS hHMWN TA GENNAIA hUPODEIGMATA
> <snip>
> 3. LABWMEN PRO OFQALMWN hHMWN TOUS AGAQOUS
> APOSTOLOUS...
>
> Here are my guesses at this passage:
>
> But so that we might conclude/end (move on from) these
> ancient examples, let us (now) place (our attention??)

I thought there was something wrong with EQWMEN in the transcript  
above; it has to be ELQWMEN. There's no augment on an aorist  
subjunctive and the verb is not TIQHMI but ERCOMAI. it's ELQWMEN,  
'let us come ..."

> upon the combatants/strugglers of those who are
> nearest to us. Let us set before us these excellent
> examples from our own generation...
>
> 3. Let us set before our eyes those good Apostles
>
> Is the ALL' hINA...PAUSWMEQA a result or purpose
> clause? Either one doesn't make too much sense to me.

I don't think really think it's quite a purpose clause. It's well to  
be aware that the hINA + subjunctive clause in Hellenistic Greek is  
already on the way to becoming the Modern Greek infinitive. Often  
enough in the GNT there's a hINA clause that's not really a purpose  
or result clause but a substantive clause -- e.g. Jn 2:25 KAI ... OU  
CREIAN EICEN hINA TIS MARTURHSHi PERI TOU ANQRWPOU, "he didn't need  
anyone to advise him about human beings ..."

So here, I think we COULD convey this as, "But to leave off  
discussing past exemplars, let's move on to ..." -- but it's almost  
like a straightforward hortatory clause in its own right: "Let's stop  
talking about exemplars from the past and move on to ..."

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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