[B-Greek] simple test *AURION HLQON
Donald R. Vance, Ph.D.
donaldrvance at mac.com
Tue Dec 13 16:06:05 EST 2005
OK, let's put a wrinkle in this. Where does "He will have written..."
fit in all this? Relative time? It seems to me that "He will write"
is imperfective while "He will have written" is perfective, since
only the latter puts boundaries on the action. But, to anticipate
what you're going to say and thus to see if I understand you, since
"He will write" looks at the action as a whole and not within it, it
is perfective. Is that right?
As to the two examples, yes I agree they are not found and are
presumably ungrammatical. As to their significance for the Aspect/
Tense descriptions of Greek and Hebrew, you may be on to something.
Presumably AURION EGRAPSA would convey what AURION ESOMAI GEGRAFWS
does, and since we do not find the former but we do find (I guess)
the latter, the forms must be grammaticalizing time. I wonder how
Rolf would handle this in his system.
Donald R. Vance
donaldrvance at mac.com
On Dec 13, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Randall Buth wrote:
> Donald Vance donaldrvance at mac.com
> Mon Dec 12 17:30:05 EST 2005
>
>> I am apparently missing your point Randall. By definition, an event
> that has not happened yet is viewed as incomplete and hence uses an
> imperfective.
> Don Vance donaldrvance at mac.com>
>
> Yes, that misses the point about what aspect is. An event that has not
> yet happened may still be viewed perfectively. Note the following:
> "He will write"
> "He will be writing"
> Both are future, but in fact, only the second "he will be writing" is
> imperfective in aspect.
> Also, am I to read your lack of response to the original question that
> you agree that AURION EGRAPSA and maHar katavti are ungrammatical? If
> so, it means that those verbs are not pure aspects, they do not ONLY
> give aspectual information but in fact have a temporal side that does
> not fit the cited contexts.
> blessings
> RAndall
>
> --
> Randall Buth, PhD
> www.biblicalulpan.org
> ybitan at mscc.huji.ac.il
> randallbuth at gmail.com
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