Re [B-Greek] Bad grammer in Rev??
Schmuel
schmuel at escape.com
Thu Jan 13 18:08:38 EST 2005
Hi b-greek
Barry Hofstetter,
>I just checked Metzger: it was actually the last 6 verses, not the last four, and Metzger does not say "broken off" but that the final leaf is missing. He claims that the ms of Revelation that Erasmus used was from the 12th century, and that there were several other places in the ms that were so mixed up with the "adjoining Greek commentary" that Erasmus also retroverted those passages from the Vulgate as well as the final 6 verses.
Schmuel
Greetings.
Here is one of the best articles on the Revelation question by Thomas Holland,
far more complete than the Bruce Metzger note.
http://av1611.com/kjbp/faq/holland_re22_19.html
Revelation 22:19 -"book of life" and the last six verses of Revelation 22
The manuscript Codex 1r used by Desiderius Erasmus to produce his Greek New Testament is missing the last six verses of Revelation chapter twenty-two. It is thought that Erasmus took the Latin Vulgate and retranslated these verses back into Greek. [1] (snip)
Certainly the Latin Vulgate and the Greek Textus Receptus are similar in these last six verses. This, of course, would be natural if the Latin was based on early Greek manuscripts that correspond with the Textus Receptus. (snip)
If Erasmus did translate back into Greek from the Latin text, he did an astounding job. (snip)
Did Erasmus really translate the Latin back into Greek? Textual scholar Herman C. Hoskier argued that Erasmus did not do this. Instead, he suggests that Erasmus used other Greek manuscripts such as 2049 (which Hoskier calls 141), and the evidence seems to support this position. [3]
Keep in mind that Bruce Metzger has been known to be careless on his Erasmus
information, as when he retracted in the third edition of "The Text of the New Testament.."
the story about the Johanine Comma that he had published in his first edition
Shalom,
Steven Avery
Queens, NY
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/
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