[B-Greek] 1st John 2:22

Elizabeth Kline kline-dekooning at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 1 14:39:27 EST 2005


See BDF # 429:

"MH [OUK] is used after verbs denoting a negative idea ... a  
redundant usage by the canons of English, German etc." "1Jn 2:22 hO  
ARNOUMENOS hOTI IHSOUS OUK ESTIN hO CRISTOS (like Dem. 9:54 ARNH. hWS  
OUK EISI TOIOUTOI)."
See also Westcott Epistles of John.

Elizabeth Kline

On Nov 1, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:

> But on the other hand,
> On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
>
>
>> On Nov 1, 2005, at 6:51 AM, kgraham0938 at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What does BDAG means when it says on pg 132 of APNEOMAI.
>>>
>>> 1 Jn 2:22 w. hOTI foll. : a. hOTI 'IHS. OUK ESTIN hO CHRISTOS
>>> " the neg. is redundant as Demosth 9, 54...."
>>>
>>
>> Demosthenes Orat., Philippica 3, Sect. 54, l. 7
>> ...  hWN OUD AN ARNHQEIEN ENIOI hWS OUK
>> EISI TOIOUTOI, LEGEIN KELEUETE ...
>>
>> ARNHQEIEN is a negative so to follow it with OUK makes a double
>> negative which causes problems for English readers.
>>
>
> On the other hand, the clause in question (OUK EISIN TOIOUTOI) is  
> here introduced by hWS, which functions pretty much as does hOTI to  
> introduce a noun clause stating a proposition, so that the  
> Demosthenes text reads, essentially, "some of whom would not even  
> dispute it, insisting "they are not like that ..."
>









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