[B-Greek] John 7:15 re GRAMMATA
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at juno.com
Tue Nov 1 16:48:53 EST 2005
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:57:32 -0600 "Dan Gleason" <dan-bgreek at hotmail.com>
writes:
> John 7:15 re GRAMMATA
>
> I looked up grammata in another online lexicon
> (http://www.greekbible.com/)
> and here is what it says ...
>
> 1) a letter 2) any writing, a document or record 2a) a note of
> hand, bill,
> bond, account, written acknowledgement of a debt 2b) a letter, an
> epistle
> 2c) the sacred writings (of the OT) 3) letters, i.e. learning 3a)
> of
> sacred learning
>
> I know what both of you are saying but two different lexicons have
> multiple
> meanings for grammata.
> Is one of the meanings "Letters of the alphabet" or not?
> Is it remotely possible that grammata in Jn 7:15 might be a play on
> words?
>
> Consider this passage from the Infancy gospel of Thomas where Jesus
> teaches
> his teacher about letters ... (Source: THE GNOSTIC SOCIETY LIBRARY)
> ...
><SNIP>
> As you can see, this "gospel" (written after canonical John) seems
> to talk
> about a special kind of "teaching" regarding "letters." I am sure
> the Jews
> wouldn't be amazed because Jesus as a grown man knew how to write
> "letters."
> Maybe Jesus knew the scriptures and had a brand new interpretation
> of the OT
> text (based on interpreting the letters in the text) that came from
> God? If
> he taught something and it made sense this would indeed amaze the
> Jews.
>
> Dan Gleason
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Are you referring to a Kabbalistic interpretation? If so, this would be
the only intimation of such. I seriously doubt that to be the case.
Nothing else in the text supports it. I think we should stick to
understanding what the text fairly plainly says rather than looking for
hidden meanings -- after all, understanding the meaning of the text is
the raison d'etre of this list.
george
gfsomsel
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