[B-Greek] John 7:15 re GRAMMATA

Dan Gleason dan-bgreek at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 1 18:05:41 EST 2005


John 7:15 re GRAMMATA

GS:
Are you referring to a Kabbalistic interpretation?

DG: Yes, I guess that's what I am referring to.
Considering how the greek text in all the gospels, epistles, and revelation 
are profusely laced with metaphor I think one would be remiss not to 
consider wordplay when one is doing a translation of any verse or pericope.

GS: If so, this would be the only intimation of such.
I seriously doubt that to be the case.Nothing else in the text supports it.
I think we should stick to understanding what the text fairly plainly says 
rather than looking for hidden meanings -- after all, understanding the 
meaning of the text is the raison d'etre of this list.

DG: I think the greek text of the gospels (and especially revelation) are 
overflowing with wordplay and hidden meanings.
I see it in almost every single verse I look at.
The church father Origen was a huge proponent of allegory and metaphor (he 
even got excommunicated for it)
In my opinion, translating a gospel verse as if it was a newspaper report of 
an historical event is an unwarranted fundamentalist approach to scripture.

Dan Gleason

PS to Dr Conrad - sorry about not recopying all the greek text in this post 
re grammata. Since my previous posts are only hours old the other members 
should have no problem following the thread. I think the issue of wordplay 
and hidden meaning in the greek text of the NT is a very important and 
neglected area of research. I am doing a lot of work on this topic and will 
confine my posts to what the greek text actually says. I know many of you 
may think my posts may seem a bit outlandish (as different ways of looking 
at something often do) but sometimes I just have to take the risk of looking 
like a fool to get feedback I can use in my thesis. Please have patience.

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