[B-Greek] Luke 22:53

Elizabeth Kline kline-dekooning at earthlink.net
Thu Oct 13 00:31:51 EDT 2005


On Oct 12, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Bob Firth wrote:

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>>> Alternately, ESTIN hUMWN might be understood to apply to both  
>>> phrases,
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>> ESTIN hUMWN is not a constituent.
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>
> I'm not quite sure what a constituent is, but I assume that you  
> mean hUMWN must refer only to hH hWRA, and not both the hH hWRA and  
> hH EXOUSIA, could you explain that further?

What this means is that ESTIN and hUMWN do not combine together to  
function as a syntactical entity.

>
> Could you expand on what you believe to be the correct way of  
> understanding this sentence, especially how the different parts  
> relate to each other?

Alternatives one and two both have merit. You wrote:

> One solution is to understand hAUTH ESTIN hUMWN as linked only with hH
> hWRA and take KAI as introducing a phrase clarifying this hour, as in
> “this is your hour, that of the power of darkness.” So NIV, "this is
> your hour, when darkness reigns.”
>
> Alternately, ESTIN hUMWN might be understood to apply to both phrases,
> linked by KAI as in “this hour is yours, and so is the power of
> darkness.” so NASB, “this hour, and the power of darkness are yours.”

The text again:

Luke 22:52b-53:
hWS EPI LHiSTHN EXHLQATE META MACAIRWN KAI XULWN;  53 KAQ' hHMERAN  
ONTOS MOU MEQ' hUMWN EN TWi hIERWi OUK EXETEINATE TAS CEIRAS EP' EME,  
ALL' hAUTH ESTIN hUMWN hH hWRA KAI hH EXOUSIA TOU SKOTOUS.

In ALL' hAUTH ... hAUTH points to hH hWRA which is modified by hUMWN.  
Don't  over look the adversative ALL' which contrasts hAUTH hWRA with  
KAQ' hHMERAN. KAI hH EXOUSIA TOU SKOTOUS is tacked on in such a  
manner that it looks like a second predicate for hAUTH ESTIN.

This really adds little or nothing to what you already know. I will  
leave the translation issues to the translation consultants.

hAUTH ESTIN hUMWN hH hWRA appears to employ an intentional semantic  
ambiguity.  "You could have arrested me during the day but THIS is  
your hour" (night, darkness, evil, stealth, the appointed hour ... )



Elizabeth Kline







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