[B-Greek] Gen 22:12 LXX

George F Somsel gfsomsel at juno.com
Sat Oct 22 23:59:59 EDT 2005


On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:35:34 -0400 "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at ioa.com>
Forwarded for Bert de Haan
> 
> The last half of Gen 22:12 reads a follows:
> 
> 
> >     NUN GAR EGNWN hOTI FOBHi TON QEON SU KAI OUK EFEISW TOU hUIOU  
> 
> > SOU TOU
> >     AGAPHTOU DI EME.
> >     The meaning of this passage is clear more so because I know 
> the  
> > passage in
> >     English then due to my understanding of Greek.  I don't  
> > understand the use
> >     of KAI.
> >     If KAI here has the sense of 'even', (->you did not even keep  
> 
> > your son from
> >     me) should there not be some sort of punctuation before SU?    
> 
> > KAI is in the
> >     wrong place to simply joins the two phrases.
> >     It seems natural to read something like, "seeing that you did  
> 
> > not spare..."
> >     or "because you did not spare..."  I have not seen a use of 
> kai  
> > like that in
> >     a lexicon.  I don't have BDAG, maybe it is in there.(And  
> > George, I can't
> >     sell my firstborn to buy BDAG.  She is on to me.)
> >     Can someone explain this please?
> 
> >     Thank you.
> >     Bert de Haan.
> >
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You could also throw into the mix the fact that the LXX is translation
Greek so there may be some influence from the Hebrew.  This might be the
case here.  While Hebrew does have the conjunction Ki which could be used
to indicate a cause, frequently the clauses are simply joined
paratactically with WaW leaving the reader to discern the connection.  It
would seem only natural that the sense of the passage would be "I know .
. . because [or 'since']"

Try your second-born.  S/he may not be old enough yet to be on to you.

george
gfsomsel
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