[B-Greek] Grammar: "i will have loosed"
Thomas Thackery
tthackery at comcast.net
Fri Aug 4 12:39:32 EDT 2006
Mr. Conrad,
Thank you for the reference. Αccording to Smyth §600 and its example
of GEGRAFWS ESOMAI---and being mindful of the K in the perfect
system---I am able to supply:
LELUKWS ESOMAI λελυκώς ἔσομαι 'I will have loosed'
This uses the "perfect active participle + future indicative of EIMI
εἰμί "
What I find interesting is that Foundalis' wrote ECO instead of
ESOMAI. I will follow Smyth on this nonetheless until told otherwise.
Ευχαριστὠ
Thomas Thackery
California
On Aug 3, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>
> On Aug 3, 2006, at 2:06 PM, thomas wrote:
>
>> ΚΑΛΗΜέΡΑ,
>
> You might check out the transliteration scheme at http://
> metalab.unc.edu/bgreek/faq.txt
>
>>
>> I am learning κοινή Greek independently and can't seem to find
>> the future perfect, active, indicative, 1st person, singular of LYW
>> (λύω) in the book I'm using.
>>
>> I did find on Harry Foundalis' website an entry for "ancient" Greek
>> (most likely Attic) for the above as λελυκώς ἔχω LELUKWS
>> EXW, but can't seem to find this in κοινη Greek.
>
> The transliteration is tricky here: the standard BG scheme uses
> "X" for Xi and "C" for Chi. The form you cite in Unicode is
> actually a periphrastic perfect active, equivalent to LELUKA; the
> equivalent future perfect form would be LELUKWS hEXW; theoretically
> there could be a LELUSW.
>
> The place to look for this sort of thing is Smyth: §584 (http://
> tinyurl.com/mxh42), §600-601 (http://tinyurl.com/pmq3y).
>
> There are very few authentic future perfects even in Classical
> Attic, but here's one in the GNT that might be called a future
> perfect: EIDHSOUSIN ("they will know") in Heb 8:11, but inasmuch as
> the perfect-tense form OIDA really bears present-tense sense,
> EIDHSOUSIN really functions as a simple future.
>
> We do see occasional future perfect middles -- always periphrastic
> forms; a celebrated instance of it is Mt 16:19 with ESTAI DEDEMENON
> and ESTAI LELUMENON.
>
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
> cwconrad2 at mac.com
> WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/
>
>
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