[B-Greek] Grammar: "i will have loosed"

Thomas Thackery tthackery at comcast.net
Fri Aug 4 12:39:32 EDT 2006


Mr. Conrad,

Thank you for the reference. Αccording to Smyth §600 and its example  
of GEGRAFWS ESOMAI---and being mindful of the K in the perfect  
system---I am able to supply:
LELUKWS ESOMAI  λελυκώς ἔσομαι  'I will have loosed'
This uses the "perfect active participle + future indicative of EIMI  
εἰμί "

What I find interesting is that Foundalis' wrote ECO instead of  
ESOMAI.  I will follow Smyth on this nonetheless until told otherwise.

Ευχαριστὠ
Thomas Thackery
California

On Aug 3, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:

>
> On Aug 3, 2006, at 2:06 PM, thomas wrote:
>
>> ΚΑΛΗΜέΡΑ,
>
> You might check out the transliteration scheme at http:// 
> metalab.unc.edu/bgreek/faq.txt
>
>>
>> I am learning κοινή Greek independently and can't seem to find
>> the future perfect, active, indicative, 1st person, singular of LYW
>> (λύω) in the book I'm using.
>>
>> I did find on Harry Foundalis' website an entry for "ancient" Greek
>> (most likely Attic) for the above as λελυκώς ἔχω LELUKWS
>> EXW, but can't seem to find this in κοινη Greek.
>
> The transliteration is tricky here:  the standard BG scheme uses  
> "X" for Xi and "C" for Chi. The form you cite in Unicode is  
> actually a periphrastic perfect active, equivalent to LELUKA; the  
> equivalent future perfect form would be LELUKWS hEXW; theoretically  
> there could be a LELUSW.
>
> The place to look for this sort of thing is Smyth: §584 (http:// 
> tinyurl.com/mxh42), §600-601 (http://tinyurl.com/pmq3y).
>
> There are very few authentic future perfects even in Classical  
> Attic, but here's one in the GNT that might be called a future  
> perfect: EIDHSOUSIN ("they will know") in Heb 8:11, but inasmuch as  
> the perfect-tense form OIDA really bears present-tense sense,  
> EIDHSOUSIN really functions as a simple future.
>
> We do see occasional future perfect middles -- always periphrastic  
> forms; a celebrated instance of it is Mt 16:19 with ESTAI DEDEMENON  
> and ESTAI LELUMENON.
>
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
> cwconrad2 at mac.com
> WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/
>
>




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