[B-Greek] Ephesians 2:1 What kind of dative in ONTAS NEKROUS TOIS?

William Ross woundedegomusic at gmail.com
Sat Aug 12 18:43:38 EDT 2006


Thank you, George.

This would preclude a translation of "dead in" correct? More like "dead to"
or "dead in respect to?"

William Ross
VGB, Argentina



On 8/12/06, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  I'd tend to call it a dative of respect -- being dead with respect to
> sin.
>
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> *William Ross <woundedegomusic at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> The translation "being dead to your trespasses and sins" seems the natural
> and Pauline translation of Eph 2:1 rather than "dead IN."
>
> Can someone tell me which locative can be properly invoked to justify the
> "in" reading?
>
> Does anyone hold the opinion that the "in" translation is not a legitimate
> translation?
>
> My thinking is that the justification that would most likely be offered is
> "dative of sphere" or "dative of locative of sphere" (depending on the
> classification system subscribed to) but I suppose the justification might
> be a true "locative of place."
>
> Here is the passage:
>
> "KAI hUMAS ONTAS NEKROUS TOIS PARAPTWMASIN KAI TAIS hAMARTIAS hUMWN"
>
> Thanks,
>
> William Ross
> VGB, Argentina
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