[B-Greek] Ephesians 2:1 What kind of dative in ONTAS NEKROUS TOIS?
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 13 07:38:23 EDT 2006
I would tend to also call that a dative of instrument. It really doesn't matter what flavor name we put on it. It could be butter almond or mint chocolate chip for that matter. To the Greek it would simply have been a dative. The important point is to remember that it can be used in this fashion.
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William Ross <woundedegomusic at gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification, Goerge. I am wondering if your translation
does not reflect that you are thinking more of a "dative of cause" such as
found in Luke 15:7?
EGW DE LIMW hWDE APOLLUMAI
"...but I am here starving to death"
Might that be what you are thinking?
What is your objection to a simple dative? "being dead to"?
William Ross
VGB, Argentina
On 8/13/06, George F Somsel wrote:
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> You are correct, I would not translate it as "dead in." I rather think
> that a better translation would be "But when you were dead through your
> offenses and sins [2] in which you then lived according to the spirit of the
> current world age . . . [5] and we being dead through offenses he made [us]
> alive through Christ"
>
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