[B-Greek] Heb 11:40 together or not apart?
Craig J
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Tue Aug 15 21:44:01 EDT 2006
Heb 11:40 TOU QEOU PERI hHMWN KREITTON TI PROBLEYAMENOU hINA MH CWRIS hHMWN
TELEIWQWSIN
I noticed the other day that the NIV and NET Bible translate differently to
what I'm used to, concerning the words MH CWRIS hHMWN. I'm used to 'not
apart from us', but NIV and NET have 'together with us'. NET has this note:
"The Greek phrasing emphasizes this point by negating the opposite: 'so that
they would not be made perfect without us'"
Is it a fair comment that the negation emphasies the opposite, and is best
translated 'together' instead of 'not apart'?
Just reading it as a _logical_ negation made it more ambiguous to me: it
didn't have to mean 'together' just that those previously hadn't already
been made perfect before those contemporaries of the writer.
In English, 'together' is a little more clearer than 'not apart'. I'm just
wondering if that is the same in Greek? Is the NIV and NET making an
interpretation here or not?
(To help understand what I'm asking, let me give a little more background on
how it might make a difference. If it is 'together' it implies a
simultaneous enjoying of something with the OT saints, either in the present
or the future. If it is 'not apart' it might allow an understanding that NT
saints enjoy something better/KREITTON in their lives that the OT saints did
not enjoy in their lives.)
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Craig Johnson
Brisbane, Australia
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