[B-Greek] accusative form , masculine

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Mon Aug 28 22:18:10 EDT 2006


 
On Monday, August 28, 2006, at 07:59PM, Benjamin Pehrson <benjamin_pehrson at sil.org> wrote:

>Why would we label NAZWRAION an adjective and not a noun? 

Because it IS an adjective, NAZWRAIOS/A/ON with morphological variants for every gender and case, in this instance accusative singular to agree with IHSOUN, the masculine noun to which TON NAZWRAION (substantive compounded of article and adjective) is in apposition.

Isn't it the noun
>Nazarene, 

"Nazarene" is a substantive; you may consider it a noun in English, but in the Greek the substantive TON NAZWRAION is compounded from the article and the adjective in the masculine gender: "the Nazarene (man)."


in which case it would be an accusative noun in apposition (and
>agreement) to the accusative IHSOUN? Although many note the difficult
>derivation from NAZARET to NAZWRAIS and that NAZWRAIS has a prior meaning,
>it is clear that the personal designation was able to be made on the basis
>of the town (see Mt. 2.23). I don't think this has anything to do with an
>adjective conforming to the gender of the noun, although we would not be
>surprised to see a woman from a given town designated with a feminine form
>of the root.

NAZWRAIOS is an adjective derivative from the name of the town.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-
>> bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Carl W. Conrad
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 6:31 PM
>> To: Eve Ritsema
>> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] accusative form , masculine
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, August 28, 2006, at 05:31PM, Eve Ritsema
>> <thebodyofjesusthenazoraion at juno.com> wrote:
>> 
>> John 18:5, 18:7, Acts 2:22
>> 
>> TOV IESOUS NAZORAION is translated Jesus of Nazareth. Nazareth is in the
>> Masculine form in the above version  not the feminine form as in Matt
>> 4:13, Luke 4:16 or the other 6 times it is in feminine form Mt, Lk ACTs.
>> My question is how can it be of  NAZORAION, and not The NAZORAION if it is
>> in the Masculine form?
>> 
>> Actually the text in John 18:5 and 18:7 reads IHSOUN TON NAZWRAION, the
>> proper noun, the article and the adjective all in the accusative, properly
>> so, as direct objects of the verb ZHTEITE carried forward. In Acts 2:22 it
>> is the object of the delayed verb ANEILATE.
>> 
>> I think your problem lies in not realizing that NAZWRAION is not a noun
>> but an adjective "of/from Nazareth" and that it is masculine because it
>> must agree with the masculine expression, IHSOUN.
>> 
>> 
>> Carl W. Conrad
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Carl W. Conrad
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