[B-Greek] KOSMOS

Wounded Ego woundedegomusic at gmail.com
Thu Aug 31 07:20:26 EDT 2006


Which usage fits this passage? What is the entity KOSMOS that "loves its
own?" Would you see the usage to be equivalent to "humanity?"

If so, are believers no longer part of humanity?

William Ross
VGB, Argentina


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> Is John using two meanings for KOSMOS in this sentence as a 
> play on the word?
> 
> What is the hater here? Is it a system? Humankind? Or is it 
> SPECIFICALLY "the people that adhere to this world's system?"
> 
> KJV:
> John 15:19 If ye were of the world <2889>, the world <2889> 
> would love his
> own: but because ye are not of the world <2889>, but I have 
> chosen you out of the world <2889>, therefore the world 
> <2889> hateth you.
> 
> Can you see how I find "the world" to refer to a specific 
> subgroup of humanity in Paul/John?
> 
> William Ross
> VGB, Argentina

EI EK TOU KOSMOU HTE hO KOSMOS AN TO IDION EFILEI hOTI DE EK TOU KOSMOU OUK
ESTE ALL EGW EXELEXAMHN hUMAS EK TOU KOSMOU DIA TOUTO MISEI hUMAS hO KOSMOS
(John 15:19)

The usage of KOSMOS seems consistent throughout this verse, not two
meanings, as I read it.

Seems to fit in with what Harold said. If you take the disciples as the
minority, and the world as the vast majority, the negative meaning only
comes in by context, not by inherent meaning of KOSMOS.

--
Craig Johnson
Brisbane, Australia
Blog Experiment: http://bloggledegook.blogspot.com/

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