[B-Greek] OUSIEN?
frjsilver at optonline.net
frjsilver at optonline.net
Mon Dec 11 12:21:23 EST 2006
It's an abbreviation for OUK ESTAI.
The quote from IS 43:10 was shortened to
EMPROSQEN MOU...OUK ESTAI
Father James Silver
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Weiss
Date: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] OUSIEN?
To: frjsilver at optonline.net, b-greek
> So ... any idea/guess what the OUSIEN following EMPROSQEN MOU is
> an abbreviation
> for/of, esp. if it's a reference to the Isaiah passage?
>
> For what it's worth, the book in which I saw this photograph
> of the dome Christ Pantocrator
> icon is this one, in case anyone here has access to it and can
> look at the picture I'm
> referring to:
>
> Are you saved?: The Orthodox Christian process of salvation by
> Barbara Pappas
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Are-you-saved-Christian-
> salvation/dp/0962372145/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product/002-3530985-5477634
>
> frjsilver at optonline.net wrote:
> Dear Friends --
>
> The last line was probably abbreviated in some artistic way so
> as to make it difficult to read. How much of any ikon's
> scriptural quotation gets spelled out is at the discretion of
> the painter and limited by the image's available space.
>
> The words are from IS 43:10 :
> EMPROSQEN MOU OUK EGENETO ALLOS QEOS KAI MET' EME OUK ESTAI
>
> This completes or at least echoes the opening lines, which are
> from REV 1:8 and 22:13.
>
> Hope this helps a little!
>
> Peace and blessings to all.
>
> Father James Silver
>
> Monk James
> Orthodox Church in America
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Weiss
> Date: Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:47 pm
> Subject: [B-Greek] OUSIEN?
> To: b-greek
>
> > In a book I saw at church today is a photo of an icon of
> Christ
> > Pantocrator in the
> > inside of a dome of an Orthodox Church - a typical design.
> > Surrounding the
> > icon is the phrase, as I recall (I might be missing a few
> words
> > or not transcribing
> > it exactly):
> >
> > EGW EIMI LEGEI KURIOS hO QEOS hO PANTOKRATWR
> > TO ALFA KAI TO OMEGA
> > hH ARCH KAI hO TELOS
> > hO PRWTOC KAI hO ESCATOS
> > EMPROSQEN MOU OUSIEN
> >
> > It's this last word - OUSIEN - that has me confused. The first
> > two letters look like
> > the typical icon way of showing OU - i.e., a v-shape on top of
> > an omicron. The
> > icon at the link below shows this in the next to the last line
> -
> > the "OU MH" has
> > the "OU" written as I describe:
> >
> > http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/cgi-
> > bin/photo.pl?path=Icons_and_Frescoes/Icons/Jesus_Christ&file=34.jpg
> > Anyway, after this "OU" are the letters CIE followed by a
> > subscript-size N. The
> > "C" is of course a sigma, and I assume the little "N" belongs
> to
> > the preceding
> > letters, but that then spells out "OUSIEN" - and I can't
> figure
> > out what this is
> > supposed to mean.
> >
> > The word KAI was abbreviated as K', but I don't recall any
> signs
> > of abbreviations
> > in this last word.
> >
> >
> > Eric S. Weiss
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Eric S. Weiss
>
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