[B-Greek] OUSIEN?

frjsilver at optonline.net frjsilver at optonline.net
Mon Dec 11 12:21:23 EST 2006


It's an abbreviation for OUK ESTAI.

The quote from IS 43:10 was shortened to
EMPROSQEN MOU...OUK ESTAI

Father James Silver


----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Weiss 
Date: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] OUSIEN?
To: frjsilver at optonline.net, b-greek 

> So ... any idea/guess what the OUSIEN following EMPROSQEN MOU is 
> an abbreviation 
> for/of, esp. if it's a reference to the Isaiah passage?
> 
> For what it's worth, the book in which I saw this photograph 
> of the dome Christ Pantocrator 
> icon is this one, in case anyone here has access to it and can 
> look at the picture I'm 
> referring to:
> 
> Are you saved?: The Orthodox Christian process of salvation by 
> Barbara Pappas
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Are-you-saved-Christian-
> salvation/dp/0962372145/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product/002-3530985-5477634
> 
> frjsilver at optonline.net wrote:
> Dear Friends --
> 
> The last line was probably abbreviated in some artistic way so 
> as to make it difficult to read. How much of any ikon's 
> scriptural quotation gets spelled out is at the discretion of 
> the painter and limited by the image's available space.
> 
> The words are from IS 43:10 :
> EMPROSQEN MOU OUK EGENETO ALLOS QEOS KAI MET' EME OUK ESTAI
> 
> This completes or at least echoes the opening lines, which are 
> from REV 1:8 and 22:13.
> 
> Hope this helps a little!
> 
> Peace and blessings to all.
> 
> Father James Silver
> 
> Monk James
> Orthodox Church in America
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Weiss 
> Date: Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:47 pm
> Subject: [B-Greek] OUSIEN?
> To: b-greek 
> 
> > In a book I saw at church today is a photo of an icon of 
> Christ 
> > Pantocrator in the 
> > inside of a dome of an Orthodox Church - a typical design. 
> > Surrounding the 
> > icon is the phrase, as I recall (I might be missing a few 
> words 
> > or not transcribing 
> > it exactly): 
> > 
> > EGW EIMI LEGEI KURIOS hO QEOS hO PANTOKRATWR 
> > TO ALFA KAI TO OMEGA 
> > hH ARCH KAI hO TELOS 
> > hO PRWTOC KAI hO ESCATOS 
> > EMPROSQEN MOU OUSIEN 
> > 
> > It's this last word - OUSIEN - that has me confused. The first 
> > two letters look like 
> > the typical icon way of showing OU - i.e., a v-shape on top of 
> > an omicron. The 
> > icon at the link below shows this in the next to the last line 
> - 
> > the "OU MH" has 
> > the "OU" written as I describe:
> > 
> > http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/cgi-
> > bin/photo.pl?path=Icons_and_Frescoes/Icons/Jesus_Christ&file=34.jpg
> > Anyway, after this "OU" are the letters CIE followed by a 
> > subscript-size N. The 
> > "C" is of course a sigma, and I assume the little "N" belongs 
> to 
> > the preceding 
> > letters, but that then spells out "OUSIEN" - and I can't 
> figure 
> > out what this is 
> > supposed to mean.
> > 
> > The word KAI was abbreviated as K', but I don't recall any 
> signs 
> > of abbreviations 
> > in this last word.
> > 
> > 
> > Eric S. Weiss
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> Eric S. Weiss
> 
> 
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