[B-Greek] NWT: Is it an accurate translation of the Greek?

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Thu Feb 23 05:51:29 EST 2006


On Feb 22, 2006, at 11:14 PM, Solomon Landers (Awohili at aol.com) wrote:

> I seem to recall that this has been discussed several times and  
> should  be
> archived.  Perhaps you might check the archives.
>
> But if you want "opinions" on the matter, I am sure some will be   
> forthcoming.

This is perhaps the single most-frequently discussed NTG text that  
has been discussed on this list. Below is a message and listing that  
I posted in March of 2001 (Thu Mar 1 15:43:50 EST 2001) -- not quite  
five years ago. It has been discussed again and again SINCE March of  
2001 and there's no reason to believe it will not arise again ... and  
again. It is hard to believe that anything new will be said about it,  
but that remains a possibility, however remote. If list-members wish  
to discuss it anew, that's well and good, provided that the  
discussion remains civil and steers clear of sectarian wrangling.

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Carl W. Conrad to B-Greek Thu Mar 1 15:43:50 EST 2001:

Hoping to give some older fodder to chew on to those who are  
determined to
retread this ground, I list herewith some of the earlier discussions  
that
focused essentially on John 1:1c. This is by no means an exhaustive  
list,
as the topic recurs regularly at least once every half-year, and  
there have
been several discussions in the past two years as well as these from  
mid-98
and earlier.

Stephen Carlson	1/18/96		Qualitative QEOS in John
Wes C. Williams	1/19/96		Re: Qualitative QEOS in John
Wes C. Williams	1/19/96		Qualitative QEOS in John
Stephen Carlson	1/22/96		Re: Qualitative QEOS in John
Stephen Carlson	1/22/96		A Bayesian Analysis of Jn1:1 (long)
Wes C. Williams	1/24/96		re: A Bayesian Analysis of Jn1:1 (long)
Al Kidd		9/15/96		Qualitative-Indefinite Pre-verbal Predicates

Carl W. Conrad	8/29/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Rolf Furuli	8/29/97		Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Paul S. Dixon	8/29/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Paul S. Dixon	9/1/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Williams, Wes	9/2/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Paul S. Dixon	9/2/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Rolf Furuli	9/2/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Williams, Wes	9/2/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Williams, Wes	9/3/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Carl W. Conrad	9/3/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Apokrisis1 at aol.com 9/3/97 	Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Rolf Furuli	9/4/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
gjordan		9/4/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Dale M. Wheeler	9/6/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Rolf Furuli	9/7/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Rolf Furuli	9/8/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Rolf Furuli	9/8/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
John Kendall	9/8/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible
Rolf Furuli	9/9/97		Re: Jn 1:1, Colwell, Nelson Stdy Bible

Apokrisis1 at aol.com 9/3/97 	Qualitative and Indefinite
John Kendall	9/6/97		Re: Qualitative and Indefinite
Apokrisis1 at aol.com 9/8/97 	Qualitative, Indefinite, or Definite?
Al Kidd		9/15/96		Qualitative-Indefinite Pre-verbal Predicates

Rolf Furuli	9/5/97		John 1:1c --- An Experiment

Rolf Furuli	9/5/97		RE: ALLOS and Jn. 1:1c/Was Anarthrous Subject
CWestf5155 at aol.com 9/6/97	Re: ALLOS and Jn. 1:1c/Was Anarthrous  
Subject
CWestf5155 at aol.com 9/4/97	Re: Anarthrous Subject with Articular  
Predicate
Carl W. Conrad	9/6/97		Re: John 1:1

Williams, Wes	9/19/97		RE: John 1:1 QEOS definitely definite?
Rev. Craig R. Harmon 9/22/97	Re: John 1:1 QEOS definitely definite?
Jonathan Robie	9/22/97		Re: John 1:1 QEOS definitely definite?
Carl W. Conrad	9/22/97		Re: John 1:1 QEOS definitely definite?
Williams, Wes	9/23/97		Re: John 1:1 QEOS definitely definite?

Jonathan Robie	10/11/97	RE: Translation for O LOGOS (John 1)?
Carl W. Conrad	10/11/97	RE: Translation for O LOGOS (John 1)?

Jonathan Robie	1/2/98	Re: Gramcord notes on the article
Rolf Furuli	1/2/98	Re: Gramcord notes on the article

Jonathan Robie	1/2/98	Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Carl W. Conrad	1/2/98	Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Jonathan  Robie	1/2/98	Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Carl W. Conrad	1/2/98	Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Stephen C. Carlson 1/2/98 Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Jonathan Robie	1/2/98 Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Jonathan Robie	1/2/98	Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Paul S. Dixon	1/2/98	Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Carl W. Conrad	1/2/98	Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS
Daniel Riaño	1/4/98	Re: Mounce: hO LOGOS HN QEOS

mjoseph		1/3/98	Articles, theology, and translation
Rolf Furuli	1/3/98	Re: Articles, theology, and translation

Carl W. Conrad	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Carl W. Conrad	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Dale M. Wheeler	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Dale M. Wheeler	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Jonathan  Robie	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Jonathan Robie	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Jonathan Robie	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Paul S. Dixon	1/1/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Wes Williams	1/1/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Williams, Wes	12/31/97	Re: The article for abstract nouns
Dale M. Wheeler	1/2/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Wes Williams	1/2/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Rolf Furuli	1/3/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Paul S. Dixon	1/5/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Jonathan Robie	1/5/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Jonathan Robie	1/6/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Al Kidd		1/6/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Al Kidd		1/6/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Paul S. Dixon	1/6/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Jonathan Robie	1/7/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Al Kidd		1/8/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns
Al Kidd		1/8/98		Re: The article for abstract nouns

Rolf Furuli	1/19/98	Re: (long) On the interpretation of the New  
Testament
Rolf Furuli	2/10/98	Re: Jn.1:1b word order

Rolf Furuli	2/13/98	Re: (long) Jn.1:1b word order
Paul S. Dixon	2/13/98	Re: (long) Jn.1:1b word order

Edgar Foster	4/7/98	Caird and Carson
Jim West	4/7/98	Re: Caird and Carson
Edgar Foster	4/7/98	Re: Caird and Carson

Steve Long	6/11/98	A different look at John 1:1c
Paul S. Dixon	6/12/98	Re: A different look at John 1:1c
Steve Long	6/12/98	Re: A different look at John 1:1c
Paul R. Zellmer	6/12/98	Re: A different look at John 1:1c

Carl W. Conrad
Co-Chair, B-Greek List
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu or cwconrad2 at mac.com
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