[B-Greek] Fw: Analytical Greek Lexicon
James Tauber
jtauber at jtauber.com
Sun Jan 29 10:03:23 EST 2006
The specific glosses were just something I came up with on the spot
for that verse. Note that while in 3 cases PAS hO PISTEUWN is glossed
as "all those who believe", in the frequency case, it is always
individual words that are glossed and not phrases (and so PAS hO
PISTEUWN is glossed "all the believing"). This kind of multi-level
glossing where both words *and* phrases can be glossed is another
possibility with "dynamic" interlinears.
Also note that it doesn't just have to be glosses that are displayed.
I could display parsing, or the lemma.[*] The latter might be
particularly useful in cases of suppletion.
The real key here is that the interlinear can be tailored to omit
what the student has already learnt and is currently learning,
perhaps going a little ahead of the student so he or she is always
challenged just a little bit without being overwhelmed.
James
[*] the parsing and lemma are much easier for me to display than a
gloss because I already have that data. Context-sensitive glosses
aren't freely available although Zack and I have, at various times,
been working on various approaches to develop them.
On 29/01/2006, at 6:23 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
> Well, it looks nice on Firefox; I particularly like the capacity to
> set frequency levels for glosses to appear. Also the fact that
> there's no parsing, only glosses in terms of what phrases mean, is
> a positive feature in terms of learner use: one still has to
> interact with the Greek words and figure out HOW they're supposed
> to mean what the gloss indicates. But the glosses (I presume this
> is a one verse - John 3:16 - experiment) would need to be more
> sophisticated I think; here hOUTWS is glossed as "such" and PAS hO
> PISTEUWN as "all those who believe." That gives a hint at the
> meaning but it doesn't help the beginning Greek student very much.
>
> Zack Hubert's site has hovering parsing and gloss, but more
> important, it has instant access to a plethora of concordance info--
> and its glosses are fuller and open to correction or expansion,
> subject to approval (not quite like Wikipedia).
>
> James calls our discussion of interlinears a "permathread." That's
> true enough; it recurs with almost automatic frequency with the
> same extreme stances sure to come to the surface (that interlinear
> texts hinder REAL acquisition of reading skills, that interlinear
> texts are the ONLY useful way to acquire reading skills. But as
> Zack and James have shown, it's possible to strike a balance
> between the little bit of help needed when a text leaves one
> clueless and the practical equivalent of reading the Greek text
> with a good translation and Strong's questionable notes on Greek
> words.
>
> Of the resources currently available along these lines, the one
> that I personally find most appealing (although I haven't acquired
> a copy) is the NET diglot with full NET version and notes and
> facing NA27/UBS4 text. There is no PERFECT resource, and one can
> quarrel with some of the notes in NET but it provides a pretty good
> commentary on problems and alternative possibilities for
> understanding the Greek text.
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