[B-Greek] 1Co 15:10a Grace given to me vs. Grace has not been wasted on me.

Jason Hare jaihare at gmail.com
Fri Oct 6 11:03:49 EDT 2006


I'm with George. In this sentence hH EIS EME functions exactly like an
adjective in the attributive position. Remember that in Greek there
are two forms of the attributive position with a definite noun:

hH OIKIA hH MEGALH (the big house)
and
hH MEGALH OIKIA (the big house)

In this case, hH CARIS... hH _EIS EME_ has EIS EME as the modifier of
CARIS. The way we learned I learned to remember this is to use the
English formula "the ____ the ____ one," remembering that it is a
direct modification. "The grace of him the unto me one."

Hope this helps,
Jason

On 10/5/06, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
> hH EIS EME functions adjectivally in relation to hH XARIS AUTOU.  As such it is an attributive adjective in the second attributive position.  It would be possible to translate it as "His toward-me-grace" or "His grace which is toward me."  It is not really an appositive as you asked since it does not say the same thing or refer to the same thing in different words.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> _________
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>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com>
> To: B Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2006 11:42:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1Co 15:10a Grace given to me vs. Grace has not been wasted on me.
>
>
> Here again with transliteration.
>
> The verse 1Co 15:10a reads:
>
> KARITI DE QEOU EIMI hO EIMI
> KAI hH KARIS AUTOU hH EIS EME OU TENH EGENHQH
>
> Question: Whether hH KARIS AUTOU is modified by hH EIS EME
> or has the following clause as appositive (with  EIS EME used as
> adverbial within the clause.
>
> Oun Kwon.
> On 10/5/06, Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 1Co 15:10 a
> >
> > χά ριτι δὲ θεοῦ εἰμι ὅ εἰ μι,
> >
> > καὶ ἡ χ άρις α ὐτοῦ ἡ εἰ ς ἐμ ὲ οὐ κενὴ ἐγενήθη ,''By the grace of God, I am
> > what I am.
> >
> > His grace which was given to me has not been for nothing' (after BBE)
> >
> >
> >
> > Gk syntax question:
> >
> > I need some help on how to decide whether ἡ χάρις αὐτοῦ is modified by ἡ ε
> > ἰς ἐμ ὲ, or has the following clause as appositive ( with  εἰ ς ἐμ ὲ used as
> > adverbial within the clause).  The former is taken by most of the English
> > translations, except GW which I follow:  I would render it
> >
> >
> > 'By the grace of God, I am what I am --
> >
> > yes, His grace, the grace which has not been wasted on me."
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> > Oun Kwon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Jason A. Hare
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