[B-Greek] a participle for TUGXANW

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Oct 24 10:25:11 EDT 2006


Christopher, there are some things that need to be cleared up; if  
this is homework, you probably shouldn't be consulting with this list  
to do it -- it puts us into a shaky status with your instructor. That  
said, I'd like to follow up on my earlier response to you.

Were you given the verb TUGCANW as the verb to work with in  
translating "what happened"? If so, then the neuter participle, TO  
TUCON, as George suggested, would work in Classical Attic to mean  
"what occurred by chance" or "the happenstance." The problem is: what  
did the English sentence really mean by "what happened." You could  
very well use TOU PRAGMATOS or TOU TUCONTOS or TOU GEGONTOS, but if  
you were told that you had to use the participle of TUGCANW, then  
there really isn't any alternative to the 2 aor. ptc. TUCON, gen.  
TUCONTOS. The 1 aor TEUXAS really derives from TEUCW, "produce by  
work or art." It derives from same root, TEUC/TOUC/TUC, but its usage  
is very different.

On Oct 24, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:

>
> On Oct 24, 2006, at 3:07 AM, Christopher Shelton wrote:
>
>> To One and All--
>>      This is a minor question, I suppose, but I was hoping someone
>> might
>> help me with an exercise I have for second semester Greek class.  I
>> have
>> to provide a participle for the verb, TUGXANW.  The sentence is the
>> following:
>>
>>
>> 4)  Memory  is  //the  recollection//  of  _that  which  has
>> happened_.
>>
>>
>> MNHMH ESTIN.....the neuter genitive singular middle/passive aorist
>> participle seems best, but TUGXANW has a 1st and 2nd aorist stem,
>> and I
>> don't know which one to use.  Could someone help me with this?
>> Thanking
>> you in advance.
>
> TUGCANW is not the verb you'd want here anyhow -- it's an auxiliary
> that's used with a supplementary participle: ETUGCANON KAQIZWN = "I
> happened to be sitting" or better, "As chance would have it, I was
> sitting ... "
>
> The verb you want for the context is GI(G)NOMAI in the sense "take
> place" or "occur" or archaic English "come to pass." I'd think you'd
> want the perfect ptc. n. GEGONOS, and in this instance the neuter sg.
> gen. TOU GEGONOTOS.
>
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
cwconrad2 at mac.com
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