[B-Greek] Mark 9:42
Norman Wood
nandk.wood at blueyonder.co.uk
Wed Sep 13 15:51:17 EDT 2006
Hi Elizabeth,
I have just read my second list of B -Greek emails for the day and I see
that you and Carl have given much more than I originally asked for thank you
both very much
Best wishes
Norman wood
Scotland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Kline" <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
To: "Norman Wood" <nandk.wood at blueyonder.co.uk>
Cc: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Mark 9:42
>
> On Jul 8, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Norman Wood wrote:
>
> > I am somewhat confused by the perfect tense in
> > EI PERIKEITAI MULOS ONIKOS PERI TON TRAXHLON AUTOU KAI BEBLETAI EIS
> > THN QALASSAN.
> > Wallace suggest generally that the perfect aspect is completed in
> > the past with continuing results, so is the sense that it is
> > something that should already be done and if so why not have
> > PERIKEITAI in the perfect as well.
>
> MARK 9:42 KAI hOS AN SKANDALISHi hENA TWN MIKRWN TOUTWN TWN
> PISTEUONTWN [EIS EME], KALON ESTIN AUTWi MALLON EI PERIKEITAI MULOS
> ONIKOS PERI TON TRACHLON AUTOU KAI BEBLHTAI EIS THN QALASSAN.
>
> LUKE 17:1 EIPEN DE PROS TOUS MAQHTAS AUTOU: ANENDEKTON ESTIN TOU TA
> SKANDALA MH ELQEIN, PLHN OUAI DI' hOU ERCETAI: 2 LUSITELEI AUTWi EI
> LIQOS MULIKOS PERIKEITAI PERI TON TRACHLON AUTOU KAI ERRIPTAI EIS THN
> QALASSAN H hINA SKANDALISHi TWN MIKRWN TOUTWN hENA.
>
> The same tense sequence of present followed by perfect is found in
> Luke 17:2 where ERRIPTAI is found for BEBLHTAI. Codex Bezae D* (first
> hand) reads PERIEKEITO ... ERIPTO in Lk 17:2 and PERIEKEITO ...
> EBLHQH in Mk 9:42. This suggests that some scribe had a problem with
> the tense sequence.
>
>
> The aspect sequence in the received text (USB3/4 NA26/27) of Mk 9:42
> Luke 17:2 is imperfective ... stative. If we follow the "standard"
> aspect theory PERIKEITAI would be imperfective "incomplete action"
> and BEBLHTAI ERRIPTAI would be a stative "a given state of affairs".
>
> Now a question for the aspect theorists. In what sense is PERIKEITAI
> incomplete?
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> Elizabeth Kline
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