[B-Greek] Heb 5:8 KAIPER etc
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Mon Sep 18 06:14:31 EDT 2006
On Sep 17, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Craig J wrote:
> Hi.
>
> No-one replied to my previous post. I'm wondering if that means the
> revision
> is reasonable, or if it is still problematic, and in what way? Can
> anyone
> help out here..? I'm still not confident as to how the KAIPER
> functions
> within the verses...
>
> --
> Craig Johnson
> Brisbane, Australia
> Blog Experiment: http://bloggledegook.blogspot.com/
>
>> Thanks, those are good points, but I'm still a little
>> uncertain about how KAIPER fits into the whole clause. There
>> also seems to be a few punctuation options. Here is verses
>> 5-10 for some context:
>
> <snip>
>
>> The translation would be something like: "who, in the days of
>> his flesh (offering prayers and also supplications to the one
>> who was able to save him from death, with strong cries and
>> tears, and being heard because of his reverence though he was
>> a son), learned obedience from the things he suffered"
>>
>> What do you think?
NA27/UBS4 punctuates 5:8 as a unit set off by commas:
(5:8) KAIPER WN hUIOS EMAQEN AF hWN EPAQEN THN hUPAKOHN,
I think this is simply to be Englished, "although he was a son, he
learned obedience from what he suffered, ... "
The NET note even suggests intentional word-play in the echoing of
EMAQEN in EPAQEN. AT Robertson thinks this is paronomasia. Whether
that's valid is another question, but at any rate, I think your
attempt to link KAIPER WN hUIOS to what precedes rather than to
EMAQEN ... hUPAKOHN is dubious.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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