[B-Greek] BBG: Appendix Errors?
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Sun Aug 5 19:27:18 EDT 2007
On Aug 5, 2007, at 7:20 PM, George F Somsel wrote:
> You are correct that ἑστάναι [hESTANAI] is a Pf MP inf. I
> am somewhat puzzled that in a book titled _Basics of Biblical
> Greek_ Mounce would include a form which does not appear in the NT
> or even in the LXX.
For what it's worth, there are NT Grammars that include a middle
ELUSAMHN in a listing of the forms of the basic vowel-verb, although
there's no middle of LUW in the GNT. I don't know whether Mounce does
it, but I know that some do.
> It does, however, appear elsewhere. Philo in "De confusione
> linguarum" has
>
>
> τὸ δὲ θεῖον καὶ ἀόρατον καὶ
> ἀκατάληπτον καὶ πανταχοῦ ὂν
> ὁρατόν τε καὶ καταληπτὸν οὐδαμοῦ
> πρὸς ἀλήθειάν ἐστιν *** “ὧδε στὰς
> ἐγὼ πρὸ τοῦ σέ”. δείκνυσθαι καὶ
> καταλαμβάνεσθαι δοκῶν, πρὸ πάσης
> δείξεως καὶ φαντασίας ὑπερβαλὼν
> τὰ γεγονότα.
>
> TO DE QEION KAI AORATON KAI AKATALHPTON KAI PANTAXOU hON hORATON TE
> KAI KATALHPTON OUDAMOU PROS ALHQEIAN ESTIN "hWDE STAS EGO PRO TOU
> SE". DEIKNUSQAI KAI KATALAAMBANESQAI DOKWN, PRO PASHS DEICEWS KAI
> FANTASIAS hUPERBALWN TA GEGONOTA.
>
> Borgen, P., Fuglseth, K., & Skarsten, R. (2005). The Works of
> Philo : Greek Text with Morphology (Conf 138). Bellingham, WA:
> Logos Research Systems, Inc.
>
> But the divine being, both invisible and incomprehensible, is
> indeed everywhere, but still, in truth, he is nowhere visible or
> comprehensible. But when he says, “I am he who stands before
> thee” he appears indeed to be displayed and to be comprehended,
> though before any exhibition or conception he was superior to all
> created things.
>
> Philo, o. A., & Yonge, C. D. (1996, c1993). The works of Philo :
> Complete and unabridged (246). Peabody: Hendrickson.
>
> The word is a pres mid inf. I apologise for not feeling well
> enough to bother to translate it myself.
>
>
> george
> gfsomsel
>
> Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
> - Jan Hus
> _________
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Stephen Baldwin <stbaldwi at hotmail.com>
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 4:54:48 PM
> Subject: [B-Greek] BBG: Appendix Errors?
>
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
> I was wondering whether someone might verify that these are
> mistakes in
> Mounce and not me being stupid (doubtless a much higher probability):
>
> Basics of Biblical Greek (Appendices) / Mounce ss80: p376 : Infinitive
> DEIKNUSQAI: Mounce=F-M-Inf Baldwin=P-MP-Inf (cf Smyth ss422)
> hESTANAI: Mounce=Pf-MP-Inf Baldwin=2Pf-A-Inf (cf MBG/
> Mounce ss84
> footnote 2)
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve Baldwin
>
> stbaldwi at hotmail.com
>
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Carl W. Conrad
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